tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post3877286289800049497..comments2023-09-15T08:07:28.542-06:00Comments on Western Hero: Progressivism is Collapsing in on Itself, and it ain't PrettySilverfiddlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-6959828604900294602011-08-06T09:43:04.509-06:002011-08-06T09:43:04.509-06:00Dick Turban from the failed state of Illinois is n...Dick Turban from the failed state of Illinois is next in line.<br /><br />Whoever the top dem is, we need to make him the minority leader in 2012.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-47824709224632910442011-08-06T09:40:07.996-06:002011-08-06T09:40:07.996-06:00What do you think of Harry Reid's Spectacular ...What do you think of <a href="http://politicaltealeaves.blogspot.com/2011/08/harry-reids-spectacular-fail-on-deb.html" rel="nofollow">Harry Reid's Spectacular Fail</a>. His days as Senate Majority Leader are most certainly numbered, now. ;)Joe Conservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02696367580635901992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-21968333827309753492011-08-06T07:43:54.519-06:002011-08-06T07:43:54.519-06:00Bd:
That poll oversampled democrats, so really it...Bd:<br /><br />That poll oversampled democrats, so really it is saying that support for the tea party has fallen among democrats. Big surprise.<br /><br />This is what you're left with: shifty polls and skewed propaganda.<br /><br />You really should understand a piece of information before you just trot it out.<br /><br />Nice try, but no cigar.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-91414146093636552052011-08-06T07:20:11.513-06:002011-08-06T07:20:11.513-06:00Poll: Tea party support shrinks by half since 2010...Poll: Tea party support shrinks by half since 2010 elections<br /><br />http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/08/05/poll-tea-party-support-shrinks-by-half-since-2010-elections/Bdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16577053490433489212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-24103824299094245992011-08-06T05:04:00.720-06:002011-08-06T05:04:00.720-06:00Ducky,
It sounds like you'd rather spend you...Ducky, <br /><br />It sounds like you'd rather spend your time jousting with creatures of your imagination than in grappling with reality.<br /><br />How could we hope to effect meaningful change for the better by doing that -- or have you given up all hope for making the world a better place?<br /><br />Your church once gave rise to a wonderful organization called The Christophers. <br /><br />Their motto:<br /><br /><i><b>"It's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness."</b></i><br /><br />None of us has the capacity to "save the world," but every one of us has what it takes to "brighten the corner where we are" and to "bloom where we are planted."<br /><br />We also have the capacity to spout cheery little clichés, don't we? But even that's better than sitting here mentally thumbing our noses or wringing our hands and moaning at everything we don't like.<br /><br /><i>"This is the day the Lord hath made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it."</i><br /><br />Be of good cheer!<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-1190117685131689092011-08-06T04:43:27.796-06:002011-08-06T04:43:27.796-06:00Most Americans have no ideology. Their loyalty lie...Most Americans have no ideology. Their loyalty lies with whomever they think will be most likely to provide them with another six pack, another round of chips and dips, and enough bucks to keep them connected to the cable, so they can watch their giant flat-screen TV while they stretch out on the hide-a-bed in their trailer or state-subsidized apartment. <br /><br />If they can wangle a gubmint check to keep them going so they don't have to do anything to earn their subsistence, so much the better. Why should they go out and scrub floors, wash clothes, change diapers, mow lawns, trim trees, deliver products, clean swimming pool, lay bricks, hammer shingles, or flip burgers at friggin' McD's when they can stay home courtesy of the US Taxpayer swillin' beer, stuffin' chips, makin' welfare babies, and letting moral and intellectual cancer permeate their minds from the big screen TV?<br /><br />Read <b>The Machine Stops</b> by E.M. Forster. He saw it coming 100 years ago with chilling clarity. It should blow your mind.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-3018282817580857132011-08-05T17:19:09.876-06:002011-08-05T17:19:09.876-06:00"...with an incredible 41% of Americans now s..."...with an incredible 41% of Americans now self-identifying as conservative..."<br /><br />The biggest problem liberals face is denial. They refuse to accept that it is their ideology that's the problem.<br /><br />You can take any bunch of ordinary non-partisan group of people who don't even know conservatism, put them into a socialist utopia of liberals making and before long they'll want to leave.<br /><br />When i first came to the west i had no idea of liberalism or conservatism. My first exposure was to liberalism but pretty soon i knew this wasn't quite right and for most people liberalism will be stupid, illogical and parasitical.<br /><br />"Conservatives have just flat out won this debate in recent decades..."<br /><br />It's not even about winning any debates, you ask people who left california for Texas if they moved because they saw some Conservative whip the tripe out of some leftard in a debate.<br /><br />Like i said, to anyone with half a brain and a bit of life experience, leftism is stupid, illogical, parasitical and ultimately detrimental to them.<br /><br />If leftards want to draw people to their camp, i suggest changing their ideology or at the very least stay away from the reins of power. That way you won't prove to voters how useless and dangerous we know you to be.MathewKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385674205383405783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-86202263920017199682011-08-05T16:52:37.948-06:002011-08-05T16:52:37.948-06:00You're having one now. Sounds like the ones y...You're having one now. Sounds like the ones you converse with where you live are pretty strange. I haven't ran into anyone like you describe, and this is a pretty rightwing place...Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-73553662428573715452011-08-05T16:47:21.275-06:002011-08-05T16:47:21.275-06:00I'd rather poke fun at fringe right wingers wh...I'd rather poke fun at fringe right wingers who spend most of their lives so frightened they can't stop pissing themselves.<br /><br />Watch out! The crack Iraqi spec-ops are going to night drop and sprinkle botulism in your corn flakes boxes.<br /><br />Watch out! We have a Marxist Muslim in the White House. He must be a Marxist because Bill Ayers, who he never met, hosted a fund raiser.<br /><br /> Is conversation possible with the right? It's pretty to think so.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-7783966555688939602011-08-05T08:40:31.793-06:002011-08-05T08:40:31.793-06:00"I am smart enough to know that a the Keynesi...<i>"I am smart enough to know that a the Keynesian welfare states are on the brink of collapse, that is when the really diehard progressives, socialists, Marxists,communists are the most dangerous because they will hesitate to pull out all of the stops in their fight to survive and remain in control."</i><br /><br />Maintaining their grip on Power and Control is undoubtedly the name of the game, Father Gregori, but I'm not as sure as I used to be that it really is the Marxists and the Marxlings who are in control. I have come to believe that they -- along with everyone who opposes them -- have been <i>used</i> by the gaggle of international bankers, financiers and industrialists over whom we have no jurisdiction who really <i>do</i> decide our fate behind closed doors. <br /><br />Everyone "hates" conspiracy theories, and so do I. It's not a "conspiracy" when it's being done quite openly, as it has been for the past 100 years. Americans were perfectly aware when the Federal Reserve was created, and perfectly aware when the income tax was instituted and perfectly aware when the New Deal was perpetrated, yet no one stormed Washington, DC shouting protests with pitchforks in hand. <br /><br />Why do you suppose the public has been so docile in embracing their own enslavement?<br /><br />I believe it's because no one in the media did one blessed thing to warn and inform the public about the <i>significance</i> of these dirty deeds. No one in the media questioned, criticized, complained, or did anything but roll over and play dead for the Oligarch's Agenda.<br /><br />Hear once again the words of <b>David Rockefeller</b>:<br /><br /><i>“Some ... believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others… to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will.<br /><b>If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.</b>”<br /> <br />"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nation will accept the New World Order." </i><br /><br /><br />~ David Rockefeller speaking at a UN Business Conference, Sept. 14, 1994<br /> <br /><br /><b>David Rockefeller</b> on control of the media:<br /><br /><br /><i>"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications <b>whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years</b>. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. <b>The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries</b>."</i><br /><br />~ David Rockefeller Baden-Baden, Germany 1991<br /><br />Of course David Rockfeller isn't anybody -- just another man on the street with a big mouth and a small brain, right? Why should anybody believe what <i>he</i> has to say? After all these quotes were taken out of context and obviously couldn't <i>possibly</i> mean what they appear to mean now, could they?<br /><br />Meanwhile, it's so much easier and so much more enjoyable to snicker and poke fun at poor, pathetic Bd, <i>as if he mattered</i>, -- and to disdain one another -- than it is to grapple with reality, isn't it?<br /><br />~ FreeThinke<br /><br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-75415525537681198292011-08-05T05:49:47.933-06:002011-08-05T05:49:47.933-06:00Bd's comments rarely contribute anything usefu...Bd's comments rarely contribute anything useful, or even understandable, but I let them stand as totems of stupidity.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-26295976477085544092011-08-05T04:53:41.979-06:002011-08-05T04:53:41.979-06:00till there is a quantum change in the media (Pleas...<i>till there is a quantum change in the media (Please: Do not tell me the current travesty is progressive)</i><br /><br />Then, you must not watch it very often.98ZJUSMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00835592067007059336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-69829858335130684042011-08-05T04:50:30.275-06:002011-08-05T04:50:30.275-06:00I'm not so sure we are killing Progressivism a...I'm not so sure we are killing Progressivism as much as reality is.<br /><br />Either way......Cool!!98ZJUSMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00835592067007059336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-86163032390867037312011-08-04T22:58:08.278-06:002011-08-04T22:58:08.278-06:00Finntann said...
I was impressed by two sort o...Finntann said...<br /> I was impressed by two sort of complete sentences.<br /><br /><br />Too good :-)Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-82362424322333824462011-08-04T22:41:50.765-06:002011-08-04T22:41:50.765-06:00Guys, the point I was making about the paradox of ...Guys, the point I was making about the paradox of identity and issues is that we are not a bichromatic people. We are not all Republicans or Democrats, Conservatives or Liberals, Libertarians or Mommy/Daddy Statists.<br /><br />Though in large groups we will tend to focus on common issues, with "common sense," and "group think," and of course, stupidity, each individual usually holds a unique amalgam of different opinions about different issues.<br /><br />You guys just got me thinking...<br /><br />You know what I think?<br /><br />Maybe we really should, as some have proposed over the years, Constituionally outright ban political parties entirely.<br /><br />You run as your own man or woman, period. You have to raise the money to do it, but it can be no more than ten bucks, or maybe a hundred, a pop. And finally, only individual citizens can donate, not corporations or unions or any other groups.<br /><br />As for issue advertising - FULL AND OBVIOUS DISCLUSURE OF THE FUNDERS. None of this 'People for America' or 'Concerned People' nonsense.<br /><br />That'd do it. <br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-71281191787089855382011-08-04T22:35:07.055-06:002011-08-04T22:35:07.055-06:00I was impressed by two sort of complete sentences....I was impressed by two sort of complete sentences.Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-10924826484953107552011-08-04T21:22:04.169-06:002011-08-04T21:22:04.169-06:00HEY! I've finally got it! Shame in me for not ...HEY! I've finally got it! Shame in me for not realizing much sooner.<br /><br /><b>BD stands for BRAIN DEAD</b><br /><br />A self-parodist no doubt.<br /><br />~ FTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-61437294343383235182011-08-04T21:20:24.852-06:002011-08-04T21:20:24.852-06:00Ducky, I think we do agree mirable dictu.
I would...Ducky, I think we do agree <i>mirable dictu</i>.<br /><br />I would never cll the media "progressive." I call them the ENEMEDIA. They are the lap dogs and lackeys of the Oligarchs -- a bunch of fawning, cringing lickspittles. But they are also the enemies of the people. Too bad the people are ill-equipped to notice, isn't it?<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-66503731167394004282011-08-04T21:10:42.782-06:002011-08-04T21:10:42.782-06:00Odd that we can't seem to agree on much but we...Odd that we can't seem to agree on much but we see state capitalism as the enemy.<br /><br />Myself, I don't believe any change comes till there is a quantum change in the media (Please: Do not tell me the current travesty is progressive) and we start getting hard news.<br /><br />Until then it's just going to be "liberals suck" and "right wingers are brain dead" ... the enemy laughs.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-63101425606094353042011-08-04T20:31:41.829-06:002011-08-04T20:31:41.829-06:00While I can hope and pray for the best, a smaller ...While I can hope and pray for the best, a smaller government with a citizenry that believes in self-responsibility, I am smart enough to know that a the Keynesian welfare states are on the brink of collapse, that is when the really diehard progressives, socialists, Marxists,communists are the most dangerous because they will hesitate to pull out all of the stops in their fight to survive and remain in control.Most Rev. Gregorihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07540256252670065874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-85937716588450037992011-08-04T19:41:22.239-06:002011-08-04T19:41:22.239-06:00Holy cow, I'm actually agreeing with Ducky.
I...Holy cow, I'm actually agreeing with Ducky.<br /><br />It is a combined problem of big government and big capital that has caused this mess. And I'm not sure if we are winning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-3149644106109582622011-08-04T19:39:33.232-06:002011-08-04T19:39:33.232-06:00Man, you're full of shit. Conservatives are dy...Man, you're full of shit. Conservatives are dying off like dinosaurs.Bdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16577053490433489212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-33721690229614988762011-08-04T17:04:01.443-06:002011-08-04T17:04:01.443-06:00Ducky,
I do realize that, and think it very wicke...Ducky,<br /><br />I do realize that, and think it very wicked. I live entirely on investment income. I've been damaged by these machinations like everyone else. If the system under which I grew up hadn't been hijacked, I wouldn't have to worry. As things stand now, God alone knows what will happen. With the value of my house abruptly cut in half four years ago, and a sudden drop of 20-25% in the portfolio in a few short days confidence is definitely on the wane.<br /><br /><b>What would be your remedy for the situation?</b> <br /><br />We may not be as far apart as we've both thought all these years. If business has co-opted the power of government and vise versa, what chance could the individual possibly have? And how could we ever trust the machinery of government not to betray us as it obviously has?<br /><br />Did you ever read The Machine Stops? It's a disturbing futuristic novella by E. M. Forster first published in 1909 -- predating Huxley and Orwell by at least two decades. very unpleasant, but compelling. Don't know why Forster never got credit for his round breaking work in the realm of dystopian prophecy.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-59822023222259453612011-08-04T15:46:40.282-06:002011-08-04T15:46:40.282-06:00@Freethinker -- A marriage between Big Government...@Freethinker -- A marriage between Big Government and Big Business has taken place. the main mission of this despicable alliance is to WIPE OUT SMALL BUSINESS and destroy even the MEMORY of rugged individualism and INDEPENDENCE.<br /><br />--------------<br /><br />Don't forget that they can crash markets and pick up quality assets at 50 cents on the dollar or the like.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-18201364194529001662011-08-04T14:48:59.579-06:002011-08-04T14:48:59.579-06:00"go off the trolley when you say "we are..."go off the trolley when you say "we are winning."<br />"Though people may identify themselves as "conservatives" or "libertarians" or whatever, issue by issue more people are like me than like you."<br /><br />You're both wrong. One word to ponder... "Independents." <br />Winning the debate.<br />And they are no longer 'like you'. The left, once again has shown their true colors, like the Carter years, and Independents are walking away from liberalism because of the action the past 2.5 years in Washington.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.com