tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post4699033164082467025..comments2023-09-15T08:07:28.542-06:00Comments on Western Hero: George Zimmerman Not GuiltySilverfiddlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-79235534741297498632012-04-27T16:00:16.780-06:002012-04-27T16:00:16.780-06:00Alan Dershowitz is a turd.Alan Dershowitz is a turd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-2430977135770853232012-04-26T05:58:21.932-06:002012-04-26T05:58:21.932-06:00i dislike this item.
Except for discussing politi...i dislike this item.<br /><br />Except for discussing political influencing and racial tensions, ALL comments on what are facts, intentions, evidence or even justified is simply not yet proven and speculative at most.<br /><br />it is what the judge accepts and finds admissable as well as what the jury decides that only counts.<br /><br />Nobody has the right to say he is guily or not. he is accused, that is all.<br /><br />D CharlesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-42359078361187695502012-04-25T18:04:23.131-06:002012-04-25T18:04:23.131-06:00Great Analysis. Bad decisions resulted in a gunsh...Great Analysis. Bad decisions resulted in a gunshot and a dead kid that never should have happened.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05287399775879832602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-87661155245189621472012-04-25T14:49:32.663-06:002012-04-25T14:49:32.663-06:00Silverfiddle,
I don't know much about the Neig...Silverfiddle,<br />I don't know much about the Neighborhood Watch programs. We don't have such a program here in my neighborhood.<br /><br />I'm guessing that most people who live in neighborhoods with such watch programs don't know the first thing about firearms.<br /><br />I am all for calling the police. Of course, getting the police to actually <b>SHOW UP</b> is another matter entirely. I know for a fact that here in Northern Virginia that if a resident calls the police, the first advice is "Get out of the house." In fact, I've been told that myself. I did refuse to leave as I had no idea if armed accomplices were outside. Instead, I told the police, "I'm sitting tight with my back against an inside wall. I am armed." The police came within three minutes. I was told that there would have been a 10-20 minute wait -- until I mentioned that I was armed.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-71350301504943434362012-04-25T07:49:25.945-06:002012-04-25T07:49:25.945-06:00AOW: I'm in agreement with you on the larger ...AOW: I'm in agreement with you on the larger issue of right to carry and to defend yourself and your property.<br /><br /><i>Is shooting a burglar in the middle of a home burglary pre-emptive justice? </i><br /><br />No. It is self-defense and it is a basic right, regardless of whether the perp was armed or not. <br /><br />Zimmerman was not defending his home, however. He was engaged in a very different activity and we all know how it ended up.<br /><br />Let's face it, if you think someone may break in to a neighbor's house, you call the cops.<br /><br />If you decide to personally intervene, you better be damned sure you know what you're doing and it better be a serious issue.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-46487158116671004332012-04-25T06:08:32.544-06:002012-04-25T06:08:32.544-06:00FT,
Thank you for taking the time to follow all th...FT,<br />Thank you for taking the time to follow all those links.<br /><br />Would that the media would cover even 25% of that material!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-26686659948400934522012-04-25T06:07:26.238-06:002012-04-25T06:07:26.238-06:00Silverfiddle,
I'd say a death is a bigger trag...Silverfiddle,<br /><i>I'd say a death is a bigger tragedy than a break-in, and you're now talking preemptive justice. </i><br /><br />No, I'm not talking pre-emptive justice. Rather, I'm exploring "if's."<br /><br />Is shooting a burglar in the middle of a home burglary pre-emptive justice? Or does the home owner just wave the gun around and force the burglar to run? <br /><br />As one who has three times been the victim of theft (home burglary, car theft at my home, and cash stolen from my purse in the public library), I don't have favorable views of that crime nor of the perpetrators. <br /><br />I recovered <b>NOTHING</b> from those thefts -- not even insurance money. <br /><br />In the case of the home burglary, the piece of jewelry stolen was worth a bit less than the insurance deductible. The car didn't have total coverage; if not for my parents buying us another car, I couldn't have finished teacher certification or commuted to work. I had no insurance coverage at the public library, of course, when two weeks' worth of grocery money was taken. <br /><br />I know only too well the psychological impact of home invasion. One never feels safe in that home again. <b>NEVER!</b> <br /><br />Even now, three years after the home burglary here (more would have been taken if I hadn't arrived home off-schedule, with the result being that the thief or thieves slipped out the back door as I was coming in the front door), the minute I get home after being out, I check the various places where I now squirrel various items of jewelry, those hidey holes being scattered all over the house and in the strangest places. No more jewelry box out in the open, no pieces of jewelry in the convenient top drawer of my dresser. And I always rush to the piano room to see if the jade bird is still there. It's a crazy routine -- and every damn day. <br /><br />And, no, I don't live in a bad neighborhood. However, there are lots of shrubs and privacy fences here, so we all feel a bit "isolated" in our homes. That "isolation" does give thieves or potential thieves an advantage -- never mind the security systems and all the locks on doors and windows. Hell, we're living in fortresses.<br /><br />I've also had my identity stolen -- when my accountant's office was burglarized. Of all places! The hours upon hours of the paperwork required to take care of that violation!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-43734196061007710942012-04-24T23:31:55.921-06:002012-04-24T23:31:55.921-06:00Anonymous, I think that they're still going fo...Anonymous, I think that they're still going forward with it. They showed the kid in the story and the frigging kid looked like baby himself.Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-89355024182893715442012-04-24T23:01:03.681-06:002012-04-24T23:01:03.681-06:00Does anyone know the name of Mr. Zimmerman's F...Does anyone know the name of Mr. Zimmerman's FORMER attorney?<br /><br />And is there a GOOGLE Link to that interview?<br /><br />If "all we know is what we read in the papers," we don't know NOTHIN.'<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-20164359966863687682012-04-24T22:58:42.986-06:002012-04-24T22:58:42.986-06:00AOW,
Thanks for that link to Mr. Zimmerman's ...AOW,<br /><br />Thanks for that link to Mr. Zimmerman's former lawyer statement to the media.<br /><br />I hope everyone clicked on the link and took the time to listen to the part you suggested from the 48th minute on.<br /><br />It's a shame that attorney was not identified. I liked him a LOT -- a real standup guy -- something all-too rare these days.<br /><br />And why is he Mr. Zimmerman's FORMER attorney do you suppose? If I were in trouble, I'd be very glad to have him working in my corner.<br /><br />VERY interesting -- and vitally important -- to learn that Mr. Zimmerman, who is of mixed racial heritage, himself, -- mentored BLACK kids, isn't it?<br /><br />The enemedia is ROTTEN to the CORE. <br /><br />How many different ways can you say TAWANA BRAWLEY?<br /><br />And Al Sharpton is permitted to walk the streets a free man? <br /><br />GEDDOUDAHERE!<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-68754368154294184652012-04-24T22:37:13.377-06:002012-04-24T22:37:13.377-06:00Mr. Hart, did that 12-year-old boy get convicted o...Mr. Hart, did that 12-year-old boy get convicted of first-degree murder, or was the case thrown out, as well it should have been?<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-6094447509400286332012-04-24T22:34:22.292-06:002012-04-24T22:34:22.292-06:00"... The law is a ass. ... "
~ Charles ...<i>"... The law is a ass. ... "</i><br /><br />~ Charles Dickens<br /><br />Submitted by FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-59347247198902767022012-04-24T21:29:29.653-06:002012-04-24T21:29:29.653-06:00This D.A. does have a history of overcharging. And...This D.A. does have a history of overcharging. Anderson Cooper did a story on CNN in which it showed that she once indicted a 12 year-old boy for first-degree murder when he pushed his 1 year-old brother into a bookcase and the brother died (and I guess that the 12 year-old had had a history of being abused himself).Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-46755373584174119092012-04-24T18:59:52.402-06:002012-04-24T18:59:52.402-06:00Redneckron's got one thing right...we don'...Redneckron's got one thing right...we don't know all the facts.<br /><br />Of the facts we do know:<br /><br />1. The media is using 3-5 year old photographs of Trayvon Martin.<br /><br />2. The media is using Zimmerman's Mugshot.<br /><br />3. NBC edited the 911 tape, got caught and fired a scapegoat, so everything's okay.<br /><br />4. A witness "John" statement to police puts Martin on top of Zimmerman beating him with Zimmerman calling for help.<br /><br />5. The capias warrant and probable cause affidavit are long on opinion and short on facts, particularly those facts prejudicial to the filing of charges.<br /><br />http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/04/11/zimmerman.charges.pdf<br /><br />http://www.scribd.com/doc/89120165/Zimmerman-Probable-Cause-Document-2<br /><br />The police felt they didn't have sufficient evidence to proceed. I'd be willing to guess that the special prosecuter felt she didn't have enough evidence to proceed with a grand jury, so simply bypassed them and filed charges anyway to appease the crowd.<br /><br />"Ei incumbit probatio, qui dicit, non qui negat; cum per rerum naturam factum negantis probatio nulla sit."<br /><br />The proof lies upon him who affirms, not upon him who denies; since, by the nature of things, he who denies a fact cannot produce any proof.<br /><br />Cheers!Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-3064867801536401752012-04-24T18:26:32.936-06:002012-04-24T18:26:32.936-06:00Stand Your Ground is to protect you of not being t...Stand Your Ground is to protect you of not being the lamb but allow you to stand up for yourself. <br /><br />There was a difference from the 911planes in New York/Washington and Pennsylvania on how the passenger responses even thou the end result was the same. Do you think there will be more alive if they decided to respond versus cowaring?<br /><br />Let the courts decide what the outcome is versus passing judgement here. We don't know all the facts?<br /><br />RedneckronAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-45427423592982254652012-04-24T17:50:41.313-06:002012-04-24T17:50:41.313-06:00Jersey: You failed to show a connection. The Sta...Jersey: You failed to show a connection. The Stand Your Ground law does not allow someone to hunt down and kill another person, as some on the left are accusing Zimmerman of doing.<br /><br />It's a bogus issue, but the progressive left never lets a good tragedy go to waste. The real agenda here is to disarm free citizens.<br /><br />You're the one who needs to do the thinking.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-48772706062835856612012-04-24T17:12:11.545-06:002012-04-24T17:12:11.545-06:00Lib-Mann: "Parse words, deflect to other stor...Lib-Mann: "Parse words, deflect to other stories past and present, believe the one left alive and blame the media. But based on his past and the tapes, it's obvious Zimmerman was hunting Trayvon."<br /><br /> "Hunting" implies an intent to kill from the outset. Since there has yet to be shown that any evidence to support your claim, the only thing obvious is your biased opinion.viburnumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15381796879179539552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-72621087211671021852012-04-24T16:41:06.057-06:002012-04-24T16:41:06.057-06:00JMJ: "But the Stand Your Ground law has so fa...JMJ: "But the Stand Your Ground law has so far impeded justice in the case of a homicide. "<br /><br /> Assumption on your part. All we have so far is conjecture, innuendo and rhetoric. We have yet to hear all the evidence, and we may never hear it. It's entirely possible that it will never go to trial as the likely first move from the defense at a preliminary hearing will be a motion to dismiss, based on the statute. <br /><br /> http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html<br /><br /> The most relevant section in terms of what we do know is <br /><br /> 776.041 Use of force by aggressor. 2(A) <br /><br /> which pretty much says that even if you started the fight, you don't have to die because you bit off more than you could chew.<br /><br /> As I read it the whole thing comes down to whether or not GZ believed that his life was in danger. That's a pretty low bar without incontrovertible evidence to the contrary. I have to agree, that he's probably going to walk, and if that's not enough to burn your butt Jersey, read <br /><br /> 776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.— (3)<br /><br /> If he's exonerated, your tax dollars are likely to go to defend him in that hypothetical wrongful death suit. <br /><br /> This story only gets worse as it goes along.viburnumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15381796879179539552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-5051817899189180822012-04-24T16:40:31.686-06:002012-04-24T16:40:31.686-06:00Parse words, deflect to other stories past and pre...Parse words, deflect to other stories past and present, believe the one left alive and blame the media. But based on his past and the tapes, it's obvious Zimmerman was hunting Trayvon.Liberalmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04612454539046863752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-83930794193408644552012-04-24T16:15:28.688-06:002012-04-24T16:15:28.688-06:00"Heimatlandsicherhieit" good one, SF.
A..."Heimatlandsicherhieit" good one, SF.<br /><br />AOW..think the REVEREND Jackson is planning to sue the school district!?Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-57632871472892811832012-04-24T14:26:53.426-06:002012-04-24T14:26:53.426-06:00"Jersey: You loony lefties are the ones asser..."Jersey: You loony lefties are the ones asserting that the Stand your Ground law is to blame, so it's on you to prove you assertion.<br /><br />I've explained it to you before(we have an inherent right to self-defense), and its a shame we need these laws, but our rapacious government is trampling our rights, so sadly they must be restated in law.<br /><br />Now, professor, tell us how that law caused this."<br /><br />Professor? Would it take a professor to show the facts to you?<br /><br />This shooting looks like it may very well have been an avoidable homicide, something Zimmerman may have started and ended unnecessarily. If you can not at least see the possibility of that - and remember, we're talking about a homicide - then you probably think the Stand Your Ground law is a good idea. But the Stand Your Ground law has so far <em>impeded</em> justice in the case of a homicide. Be Zimmerman innocent or not, and whether or not his actions are covered by the text and intent of the law, the law is a part of all this. Whether you can accept that reality or not. <br /><br />It seems strikingly obvious to me the law has played a negative role in all this, and may well set this screwball free, when he should at least be treated equally in initiating an assault. At what point does someone tailing you become a threat?<br /><br />I think the DA wants to lose this case and in so doing call to question the Stand Your Ground type of laws. These laws can be used to murder people and get away with it, and you righties are just oblivious to that potential! This one may be questionable, but sure enough other's will come up and this will motivate a lot of bad actors to commit acts they otherwise may not have.<br /><br />Think man, think.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-62614199256626170102012-04-24T13:48:19.726-06:002012-04-24T13:48:19.726-06:00Even if he is found not guilty he's still a de...Even if he is found not guilty he's still a dead man. The leader of the black race in America, Pope Al Sharpton the First will demand his death. (For the sake of justice of course.)Infidel de Manahattahttp://www.manhattaninfidel.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-63933392307843614662012-04-24T12:45:21.609-06:002012-04-24T12:45:21.609-06:00No its, not, bobo.
The jury trial is to find a ma...No its, not, bobo.<br /><br />The jury trial is to find a man guilty or not guilty, silly little man.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-63187840520632444452012-04-24T12:05:09.963-06:002012-04-24T12:05:09.963-06:00Jersey: You loony lefties are the ones asserting t...Jersey: You loony lefties are the ones asserting that the Stand your Ground law is to blame, so it's on you to prove you assertion.<br /><br />-------<br />That's why it's going to a jury, bobo.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-24675411239602237382012-04-24T12:02:43.269-06:002012-04-24T12:02:43.269-06:00we can also thank the media for tier incitement of...we can also thank the media for tier incitement of this division. We don't need to have another Reginald Deny incident on our hands although I believe there already has been 3 incidents of attacks on whites adn no hispanics for payback thus far.<br />I guess we won't be hearing from Dear Leader to help keep this pressure cooker from exploding and calling these attacks "Acting Stupidly"Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02173702830006208833noreply@blogger.com