tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post8169419238373624762..comments2023-09-15T08:07:28.542-06:00Comments on Western Hero: Is Herman Cain a 21st Century Ronald Reagan?Silverfiddlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-9844152578148813022011-10-06T15:12:38.033-06:002011-10-06T15:12:38.033-06:00Jersey McJones said...
There are some things ...Jersey McJones said...<br /><br /> There are some things about Cain's past that may not sit well with the conservative grassroots.<br /><br /><br />Kind of like what the Libs thought when they voted for Obama after KNOWING about HIS past?MsCharlotteValenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-45848267752376703012011-10-06T13:46:47.901-06:002011-10-06T13:46:47.901-06:00" ... here we are, right here, right now.&quo...<i>" ... here we are, right here, right now."</i><br /><br />I'd never be so naive and fuzzy-headed as to deny hat, SilverFiddle. However, I refer so frequently to the past not to attempt to dwell there, but because I believe, as Santayana and many others have said, if we fail to remember -- <i>and learn from</i> -- the past, we will continue to make the same stupid mistakes over and over again. <br /><br />I think we need to see those grave errors in judgment for what they were in the hope our own powers of perception and ability to make good decisions improves accordingly. <br /><br />Just as man cannot live by bread alone neither can he live only by facts and figures. The cost in human suffering and the potential reward for better quality of life for larger numbers of individuals should be factored into every policy making decision.<br /><br />The purely utilitarian approach, which sees the great mass of humanity as cogs in a machine or mere aids in achieving mammoth goals, is morally untenable -- at least to me.<br /><br />Any policy that thwarts the inherent right of self-determination -- <i>no matter how much "good" it's supposed to achieve for "all"</i> -- should be shunned, avoided and condemned. And yes, I'm aware that's a hopelessly idealistic position, but we must aim in that direction if we hope to avoid monstrously inhumane "solutions" to social problems.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-23204971901046761402011-10-06T08:46:07.254-06:002011-10-06T08:46:07.254-06:00Herman is looking better every day.Herman is looking better every day.Progressives Are Eruptinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04483917010391962721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-5848695925268791892011-10-06T05:42:51.627-06:002011-10-06T05:42:51.627-06:00FreeThinke: I share much of the sentiment express...FreeThinke: I share much of the sentiment expressed in you last post.<br /><br />I am not impugning Dr Paul's character, nor am I imputing to him the qualities of his unstable supporters.<br /><br />You also touch upon what almost got Rand Paul in trouble, and that is discussing the conundrum of resolving the civil rights issue by violating the constitutional rights of property owners. Same with the Civil War, but here we are, right here, right now.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-3644124100392891602011-10-06T05:38:45.606-06:002011-10-06T05:38:45.606-06:00I see the Fed as a piece of the problem, not the s...I see the Fed as a piece of the problem, not the source.<br /><br />They are carrying out monetarist policies ostensibly at the behest of the US government, who is the true source of the problem, because they have abandoned common sense economic policies and have been scared by the banking cartel into sitting down and shutting up.<br /><br />Those latte leftists marching on wall street should really be marching on DC.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-89305018202407376392011-10-05T22:18:03.118-06:002011-10-05T22:18:03.118-06:00Yeah, a Christian theocrat with a degree from Oral...Yeah, a Christian theocrat with a degree from Oral Roberts... exactly what we need.Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-30578951449837000842011-10-05T21:40:37.116-06:002011-10-05T21:40:37.116-06:00I hear you on his supporters.
Hear is the deal,...I hear you on his supporters. <br /><br />Hear is the deal, we are not on verge of a bad depression, we are on the verge of total collapse, it may already be too late. We can not afford another Keynesian in the White House and certainly can not allow one who has loyalties to the Fed. It is the source of our debt, it is the source of what will be a dollar collapse if we elect another Keynesian. <br /><br />It does not need to be Paul, I'll take Michelle Bachmann or anyone who will stand up to the Fed. Cain will continue Keynesian policies, which will destroy this country and possibly conservatism for generations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-24749959484547499192011-10-05T21:35:22.807-06:002011-10-05T21:35:22.807-06:00Ya' know, you geniuses, back through our histo...Ya' know, you geniuses, back through our history, when the economy took turns like it has recently, there were riots, and social movements, and sometimes violent discontent. The very programs you guys hate - SS, Medicare, unemployment, food stamps - keep the line between the masses and your stupid necks. Don't forget that.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-31693424139713876032011-10-05T21:29:33.810-06:002011-10-05T21:29:33.810-06:00SilverFiddle,
Do you blame the candle when moths...SilverFiddle, <br /><br />Do you blame the candle when moths, fatally attracted to its light it incinerate themselves trying to get near the flame?<br /><br />Ron Paul is not TRYING to attract dangerous lunatics. He is trying to make America aware of true nature of what she once had -- and what she has been recklessly throwing away with both hands, since the advent of "Progressivism." What knaves and fools may choose to make of Dr. Paul's aims and motives is no reflection on Dr. Paul's character.<br /><br />I am one of those rare individuals who do not believe the Civil War was in any way necessary, right or good. That does not, however, make me a believer in or a supporter of slavery.<br /><br />I don't believe in judicial activism either, but that doesn't mean I hate Negroes and would like them to have remained at a subservient disadvantage. I merely resent and disapprove of the way the Civil Rights Movement was conducted.<br /><br />In a nutshell, I despise W.E.B. Dubois, but love and admire Booker T. Washington. <br /><br />I also find alcoholism horrifying and repugnant, but that does not mean I would like to see a return of Prohibition.<br /><br />I'm sure you get the point I'm trying rather clumsily to make?<br /><br />How could I or anyone else be held responsible for the misunderstanding others may have of my motives?<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-70444667752022309212011-10-05T21:22:42.744-06:002011-10-05T21:22:42.744-06:00Johnson is the classical Libertarian, fiscally con...Johnson is the classical Libertarian, fiscally conservative, socially liberal.<br /><br />Elected twice as a Republican in a state that is 2:1 Democrat, he gave us 8 years of balanced budgets. When he left office the state had a billion dollar surplus.<br /><br />While reducing the state budget he raised education funding by 33%... when that didn't work to improve the schools he switched support to a voucher program.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Gary_Johnson<br /><br />http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues<br /><br />I'd vote for him.<br /><br />CheersFinntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-39748595998158912782011-10-05T21:05:07.889-06:002011-10-05T21:05:07.889-06:00I will be honest and also say that it disturbs me ...I will be honest and also say that it disturbs me that a good measure of Paul support is from dope smoking pacifists who don't really understand Paul's underlying philosophy.<br /><br />Half of them would probably forget when election day is and fail to show up at the polls.<br /><br />That he is a neo-nazi magnet also disturbs me, although I have seen no evidence that he is racist or anti-Semitic. <br /><br />It's a flawed world we live in, full of flawed people.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-12385291350763550692011-10-05T21:02:02.939-06:002011-10-05T21:02:02.939-06:00The best way I can explain it is that I am an Aust...The best way I can explain it is that I am an Austrian as well, but I don't automatically cross every non-Austrian off my list. We've been living with this system a long time, and a lot of otherwise good people have bought into it.<br /><br />As much as I'd like to see it, ending the Fed is a pipe dream until somebody big can start explaining what a post-Fed US looks like so that people who normally don't deal with this stuff can understand it.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-80237619723071688202011-10-05T20:53:01.051-06:002011-10-05T20:53:01.051-06:00I'm not so much a Paul guy as am anti Fed, Pau...I'm not so much a Paul guy as am anti Fed, Paul just happens to be the most anti Fed candidate. <br /><br />Seriously, how can you justify Cains connection and support of the source of most of our problems? I don't get it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-77964654931676870042011-10-05T20:23:49.736-06:002011-10-05T20:23:49.736-06:00Trestin: I know you're a Paul guy. More powe...Trestin: I know you're a Paul guy. More power to you, but even a president Paul could not wave a magic wand.<br /><br />He has subpoena power right now, why doesn't he use it to investigate the FED?<br /><br />I'm looking at all the factors, the complete package.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-51929508519009681312011-10-05T20:07:29.273-06:002011-10-05T20:07:29.273-06:00Jersey:
"The trouble with Cain is that his on...Jersey:<br />"The trouble with Cain is that his only experience with gov't, if you can call it that, is his time with the Federal Reserve" <br />So we go from no governing experience, to a 1 year term at the Federal Reserve of KC, when I pointed to his executive experience.<br />Way to change the dynamics of the subject.<br /><br />"constitutional scholar" who has learned to circumvent it. He doesn't stand by it except to abuse the 16th amendment.<br />Cain however embarrasses it. THATS why he is a favorite of the Tea Party.<br /><br />Amateur is what Obama truly is. This nation promoted a mailroom clerk to a CEO of a multi-conglomerate.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899335615984185508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-25346791501610838922011-10-05T20:05:56.650-06:002011-10-05T20:05:56.650-06:00Jersey said "nation is running along just fin...<i>Jersey said "nation is running along just fine".</i><br /><br />Alright, now I'm doubled over laughing, too.<br /><br />Appreciate the levity, though. Gotta laugh at something when a bunch of retarded anarchists are<br />#OCCUPYINGMYVEGETABLECRISPER.98ZJUSMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00835592067007059336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-18202547982915440032011-10-05T20:01:33.231-06:002011-10-05T20:01:33.231-06:00" I lived in NM when Gary Johnson was governo...<i>" I lived in NM when Gary Johnson was governor. What exactly do you think is wrong with him?"</i><br /><br />It's a visceral response to what little I've seen of him. Doesn't seem like a truly serious guy from his platform manner -- a little too casual, laid back, "hip," ultra-modern, socially liberal for my taste. <br /><br />He might have been wonderful as Governor of New Mexico, but he just doesn't impress me as having enough dignity and moral weight to be our president.<br /><br />As I've said so often, TV gives the voters almost all they have to go on. Too bad it's rarely anything much but fleeting impressions of personality, background, style, taste and showmanship.<br /><br />What do you think of him, Finntann? Would he make a good president in your estimation? I doubt if he could be elected frankly,<br /><br />Tim Pawlenty might have made a very good president, but his bland, dull personality makes him unelectable in our culture.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-5240998122971790122011-10-05T19:57:06.102-06:002011-10-05T19:57:06.102-06:00>Can't you just admit, once in a while, tha...>Can't you just admit, once in a while, that Obama is not some insipid schmuck?<br /><br />The problem is that Obama is, in very word and deed, an insipid schmuck. He's an intellectual lightweight (and that's giving him more than he deserves) who, even after almost three years in office, is still thoroughly unqualified to be in any administrative or leadership position whatsoever. If we lived in a reward in which only merit was rewarded, Obama would have a severely overdrawn account.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-25133917894127661812011-10-05T19:54:16.286-06:002011-10-05T19:54:16.286-06:00Given your moniker, I assume you do want something...<i>Given your moniker, I assume you do want something from gov't - like a paycheck.</i><br /><br />Weakest dodge in the book.<br /><br />But feel free to try again.98ZJUSMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00835592067007059336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-1086396871993299482011-10-05T19:52:37.836-06:002011-10-05T19:52:37.836-06:00Say what you want about Obama, but he is a constit...<i>Say what you want about Obama, but he is a constitutional scholar and has shown to be a competent and able "Leader of the Free World."</i><br /><br />Wh-wh-<i><b>what?!?!?</b></i><br /><br />ppffftt. Oh-kay....nine out of ten #OCCUPYTACOBELL protesters probably agree with you.....if they knew what they were protesting about......today?<br /><br />Last week?<br /><br />Next Tuesday?98ZJUSMChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00835592067007059336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-81843586040515104842011-10-05T19:35:49.125-06:002011-10-05T19:35:49.125-06:00Silver, you are a smart guy. Why do you think it ...Silver, you are a smart guy. Why do you think it is a good idea to replace a guy who is bought off by the BIS system, with a former unrepentant member of that system. <br /><br />I can understand why a lot of people like Cain, he says all the right things, so does any snake oil salesman. The fact is he is one of them and as such, he is an enemy to the constitution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-10506940047181802692011-10-05T18:11:49.180-06:002011-10-05T18:11:49.180-06:00FT~ I lived in NM when Gary Johnson was governor. ...FT~ I lived in NM when Gary Johnson was governor. What exactly do you think is wrong with him?<br /><br />Jersey said "nation is running along just fine".<br /><br />Oh god stop, my sides hurt I'm laughing so hard.<br /><br />Cheers!Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-17672038081051567122011-10-05T17:58:49.647-06:002011-10-05T17:58:49.647-06:00Always glad to have Reagan scholar Bd chime in...
...Always glad to have Reagan scholar Bd chime in...<br /><br />Jersey, <br /><br />When someone send f-bombs instead of coherent rebuttals, you know they've lost the debate.<br /><br />Obama is not a scholar.<br /><br />Obama has yet to show he's competent at anything other than shutting down airline manufacturers, raiding guitar makers (which really pisses me off because I looooove guitars), and arming Mexican drug gangs, which he and Holder should be breaking big rocks into little rocks.<br /><br />Yeah, George Bush ran the car into the ditch. Obama threw a lit match in the gas tank and blew the damned thing up.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-13627667406132760122011-10-05T17:30:04.055-06:002011-10-05T17:30:04.055-06:00Mr. Cain's apparently strong ties to the Feder...Mr. Cain's apparently strong ties to the Federal Reserve are a huge black mark against him -- for me. The Fed is one of most potent enemies. Also his platform manner is too reminiscent of an old-time Tent Revival preacher for my tastes --- but no candidate is perfect. I do find him engaging and refreshing<br /><br />Mitt is decent enough, but seems flat, wooden, dispassionate, unconvincing -- committed only to winning not to any potentially curative agenda.<br /><br />Rick Perry has proved himself to be a dullard -- about as sharp as a mushroom in debate. It's time for the RNC to usher him quietly and politely out the door.<br /><br />Bachmann is strident. Her delivery is monotonous, and she has an embarrassingly effeminate husband with too much public interest in homosexuality, even if he does claim to be able to "cure" it. [Talk about tosh, tarradiddle, stuff, nonsense, bullshit, baloney! and horsefeathers! WOO HOO!!] <br /><br />Newt -- as someone wrote of Giuliani a few months ago -- too closely resembles an old wedding cake. It's all too clear his day is past. Besides, he has a plethora of powerful liberal friends with whom he's much too cozy, and has shown himself too many times to be anything-but a committed conservative. I think he's a New-World-Orderist- Bohemian-Grove type, myself.<br /><br />Rick Santorum is sweet, kind, decent, and sincere, but but he's an obvious lightweight who's intellectually-challenged. [Absolutism on Right-to-Life issues GUARANTEES electoral loss, as does overt condemnation of homosexuality.]<br /><br />Ron Paul is too old, too eccentric, too pointedly controversial, a bit schizoid, and frankly his thinking has too much depth ever to reach the "average" voter. Besides, Dr. Paul has been tarred with the brush of anti-Semitism. [It's not true, of course, but when certain quarters get down on you, you might as well fold your tent, pack up your belongings, put your tail between your legs, keep your head down, grit your teeth and head for home -- if they haven't yet burned it down.] Charges of anti-Semitism are like charges of Date-Rape or Child-Molestation. They don't have to be true to ruin you. You're as good as dead once such an accusation has been made -- thanks to leftist political activism of the Betty Friedanesque variety.<br /><br />Who are the other Republican hopefuls? Gary Johnson? YAGOTTABEE KIDDING!!! I believe it says more about the unimpressive nature of the other candidates, if such there be, than it does about my aging memory.<br /><br />So, where-of-where is The Knight in Shining Armor -- the Superman -- the Siegfried with BRAINS, a HEART, and a CONSCIENCE -- who could lead us out of this wilderness and back to "our" PROMISED LAND (as opposed to "the" Promised Land)?<br /><br />Probably pulling levers behind a curtain in The LAND of OZ.<br /><br />Wheeze in TRUBBLE, Pappy!<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-55996746905049831012011-10-05T17:25:26.436-06:002011-10-05T17:25:26.436-06:00Wow, the most ridiculous post in a while. Well...s...Wow, the most ridiculous post in a while. Well...since yesterday, lol! Reagan would be appalled by the conduct and beliefs of today's GOP and likewise, they'd label him as a radical liberal.Bdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16577053490433489212noreply@blogger.com