tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post8306809030752671257..comments2023-09-15T08:07:28.542-06:00Comments on Western Hero: An Ebbing Tide Lifts Obama’s BoatSilverfiddlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-19951788630508040022012-02-12T18:29:09.147-07:002012-02-12T18:29:09.147-07:00Silver: In my city, we saw one of those Obama &quo...Silver: In my city, we saw one of those Obama "drive the economy in the wrong direction" stimulus projects.<br /><br />It was on a road that was fine and didn't need it. There was a huge sign on the project about it being one of the Obama projects.<br /><br />Since it was public sector (where you can't expect results), the "workers", if you can call them that, only did a little a day. They blocked driveways for a very long time: and even caused a mom-and-pop restaurant to go under. Because the Obama project blocked the driveway for months at a time.<br /><br />The result? A nice new road. And a new traffic signal that is very badly designed and placed, so you feel safer going through the driveways of the businesses around it and cutting through parking lots to avoid it... one of the parking lots being the small business that "Barry" had closed.<br /><br />Obama's stimulus on display: hostile to small businesses, forcing jobs to be lost. While fat-and-happy underworked union thugs get fatter wallets.<br /><br />Multiply this across the nation.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-69117863111163105862012-02-12T07:15:13.038-07:002012-02-12T07:15:13.038-07:00Dmarks: We bring facts, they bring talking points...Dmarks: We bring facts, they bring talking points.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-55895059343203059242012-02-11T19:11:56.378-07:002012-02-11T19:11:56.378-07:00Liberalmann lied: "Lest you forget, once agai...Liberalmann lied: "Lest you forget, once again; Obama created more jobs in 2 years than Bush did in 8 years."<br /><br />Actually, Obama's policies increased unemployment by 20%. He dug a huge hole, and we are no where near out of it. Obama did not create any jobs, but he lost many.<br /><br />"That figure would be greater if obstructionist GOP politicians didn't hate Americans."<br /><br />If the Republicans had their way, we'd have been out of this hole a long time ago, with low unemployment.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-91909946162441989492012-02-11T17:56:56.996-07:002012-02-11T17:56:56.996-07:00Liberalmann: You've just shown us that you ei...Liberalmann: You've just shown us that you either didn't read the article or you cannot understand the data.<br /><br />Obama has lost millions of jobs.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-18282916729860950632012-02-11T17:43:13.577-07:002012-02-11T17:43:13.577-07:00Lest you forget, once again; Obama created more jo...Lest you forget, once again; Obama created more jobs in 2 years than Bush did in 8 years. That figure would be greater if obstructionist GOP politicians didn't hate Americans.Liberalmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04612454539046863752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-72598223468578031762012-02-10T15:51:04.372-07:002012-02-10T15:51:04.372-07:00Ducky said: "Austerity will make the situatio...Ducky said: "Austerity will make the situation that much worse."<br /><br />No, it will make everything better. And we needed it now.<br /><br />In fact, there's no reason a government should not operate in an austere fashion. Everything else is waste.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-71116714795678916942012-02-10T07:16:41.962-07:002012-02-10T07:16:41.962-07:00RE: Hospitals going bankrupt. A number of years ag...RE: Hospitals going bankrupt. A number of years ago Tenet Health system pulled quite a scam. A reporter when out and took a look at the state of Hospitals, and here is an interesting report Ducky<br /><br />http://www.prndi.org/media/PDF%20Documents/hospitalfinances.pdfBunkervillehttp://www.bunkerville.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-61220838935720606192012-02-10T06:25:55.795-07:002012-02-10T06:25:55.795-07:00Jersey said: "Just as they say Obama policies...Jersey said: "Just as they say Obama policies create the unemployment situation"<br /><br />Obama is only responsible for the unemployment he caused. But it happens that it is a lot. The unemployment rate went up a massive 20% after he took office.<br /><br />And this is due to his policies that discouraged companies from hiring workers, and the misguided "Stimulus" which went to well-off union thugs instead of to regain career jobs.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-8143863568906179992012-02-10T05:27:53.030-07:002012-02-10T05:27:53.030-07:00@KP: "we have a structural problem in Americ...@KP: <i>"we have a structural problem in America even more than a right vs left problem"</i><br /><br />Yes. Well said!Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-27692866882863389902012-02-10T03:55:49.728-07:002012-02-10T03:55:49.728-07:00"All you ... know how to do is snipe, snivel,..."All you ... know how to do is snipe, snivel, spar and sob"<br /><br />what the hell do you think <em>you're</em> doing?<br /><br />"while you sift through statistics"<br /><br />I know you consider facts to be unimportant, but you are wrong.jezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865247084509280406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-30396939812380816072012-02-09T23:06:39.584-07:002012-02-09T23:06:39.584-07:00SF, as you and Ducky have alluded to (from very di...SF, as you and Ducky have alluded to (from very different perspectives) we have a structural problem in America even more than a right vs left problem. The system is rigged. We have two minority parties in this country due to closed primaries, money in politics and gerrymandering. The other 70-80% of us are left to choose the less than sh*tty candidate.KPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13788103894599339102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-24065356601196381522012-02-09T20:34:00.652-07:002012-02-09T20:34:00.652-07:00Speaking of cooking the books, the "official&...Speaking of cooking the books, the "official" inflation rate also masks numerous bipartisan sins as well.<br /><br />What do they exclude? Food and fuel, the two biggest expenses for non-Ducky rich families.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-1855658329691634452012-02-09T20:24:32.084-07:002012-02-09T20:24:32.084-07:00I think we all know the government has been cookin...I think we all know the government has been cooking the books on unemployment for years, nay decades.<br /><br />The real question is... why are we okay with that.Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-42726498433083022262012-02-09T19:22:40.939-07:002012-02-09T19:22:40.939-07:00C'mon Duckster, You've read my words on th...C'mon Duckster, You've read my words on this blog saying the seeds were sewn long ago. This is a bipartisan catastrophe.<br /><br />Obama's sin is that he followed in Herber Hoover's, oops I mean George W. Bush's footsteps, destroying free market capitalism in order to save it.<br /><br />If Benito Obama can just bring the corporatists to heel it will all be ok, relax...Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-32867864412969839732012-02-09T19:14:22.324-07:002012-02-09T19:14:22.324-07:00Better if you could point to actual policies respo...Better if you could point to actual policies responsible for the job losses.<br /><br />Policies that ORIGINATED in this administration.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-61712530380171660432012-02-09T19:03:34.561-07:002012-02-09T19:03:34.561-07:00@Ducky: Austerity will make the situation that mu...@Ducky: <i>Austerity will make the situation that much worse.</i><br /><br />I see you've drunk the Krugman Kool-aid.<br /><br />I am not alleging manipulation. I say up front that all administrations have followed the same rules.<br /><br />I am pointing out that the absolute number of jobs has shrunk under Obama. It's unprecedented, even measuring against Hoover.<br /><br />Let's see you spin that one, Obama fan boys...Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-90638953295011019302012-02-09T17:45:57.655-07:002012-02-09T17:45:57.655-07:00Off topic but very good
Since you and Fredd the C...<a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/06/charles-murray-book-review.html" rel="nofollow">Off topic but very good</a><br /><br />Since you and Fredd the Censoring Coward are waxing eloquent about Charles Murray's latest thought you might enjoy this take down.<br /><br />Fredd's still pissed about welfare Cadillacs but I thought it might moderate your reaction.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-29859483033646465332012-02-09T17:06:11.250-07:002012-02-09T17:06:11.250-07:00At least American economic history did.
I really ...At least American economic history did.<br /><br />I really get a kick out of these guys thinking they got to the bottom of Obama's dastardly manipulation of the official unemployment figure. The methodology hasn't changed for decades.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-51336237221232417622012-02-09T16:23:49.877-07:002012-02-09T16:23:49.877-07:00Because they say so, Ducky. Just as they say Obam...Because they say so, Ducky. Just as they say Obama policies create the unemployment situation. Remember, Human History only just started three years ago.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-636567512145857802012-02-09T12:59:11.738-07:002012-02-09T12:59:11.738-07:00Estimated by whom? That information would really f...Estimated by whom? That information would really flesh out your post, Bunkerville.<br /><br />Why would a change in insurance availability bankrupt a significant percentage of hospitals?Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-8143846700870457632012-02-09T09:58:19.608-07:002012-02-09T09:58:19.608-07:00" ... economic data is less important than me...<i>" ... economic data is less important than medical data ..."</i><br /><br />Spoken like a true believer in Kollectivism who vainly imagines that great things can be accomplished without developing, maintaining and <i>revering</i> strong engines of wealth creation which can only thrive in a capitalist system.<br /><br />All you humorless, bloodless types know how to do is snipe, snivel, spar and sob while you sift through statistics in search of support for your stifling surmises.<br /><br />BOO!<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-28959469637369807602012-02-09T09:47:03.256-07:002012-02-09T09:47:03.256-07:00It is estimated that 17 percent of all Hospitals w...It is estimated that 17 percent of all Hospitals will go bankrupt with Obamacare. Add those tens of thousands to the unemployed in the near future.Just saying.Bunkervillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427978686579892380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-77266741512966781322012-02-09T08:48:18.563-07:002012-02-09T08:48:18.563-07:00I wouldn't want to be guilty of spreading &quo...I wouldn't want to be guilty of spreading "misinformation," of course. The literalists among us would crucify me.<br /><br />--------<br /><br />Sorry Freethinker, but us leftists have been aware of the U6 for ages.<br /><br />This fact of the official unemployment number's weakness is something that the fringe right is patting itself on the shoulder for uncovering. Obama is fudging the number says, Fredd. Absolute ignorance or stupidity?Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-61620653558477879092012-02-09T08:43:48.308-07:002012-02-09T08:43:48.308-07:00No, they say that the nation is paying its dues.
...No, they say that the nation is paying its dues.<br /><br />Austerity will make the situation that much worse.<br /><br />As long as you see this as a D vs. R issue rather than a structural problem you're screwed.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-49952253565567039682012-02-09T08:01:29.208-07:002012-02-09T08:01:29.208-07:00FreeThinke: at ease... economic data is less impor...FreeThinke: at ease... economic data is less important than medical data. I'm surprised you're so surprised at the idea that you should take some trouble to be accurate about the most important risk factors.jezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865247084509280406noreply@blogger.com