tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post4129505300025610766..comments2023-09-15T08:07:28.542-06:00Comments on Western Hero: Catholicism in the Hands of the PeopleSilverfiddlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-30301423531807805412012-10-17T13:37:29.991-06:002012-10-17T13:37:29.991-06:00A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO LOSE!<b>A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING TO LOSE!</b>FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-81699303689578963772012-10-16T18:09:23.121-06:002012-10-16T18:09:23.121-06:00...especially if the delicious eschatological ravi......especially if the delicious eschatological ravings of the pro-Romney crowd's prognostications that Obama's second term will destroy the America that calls Romney a conservative could be true.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-14880233031101140402012-10-16T18:03:29.221-06:002012-10-16T18:03:29.221-06:00Oh Beamish, just shut up and kiss him.
Can't ...<i>Oh Beamish, just shut up and kiss him.</i><br /><br />Can't do it. The "Buckley Rule" - vote for the most conservative electable candidate running, has me seriously considering a vote for Obama.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-60927179720068352722012-10-16T09:55:33.275-06:002012-10-16T09:55:33.275-06:00Thank you SF :)Thank you SF :)jezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865247084509280406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-65365700880545984342012-10-16T08:14:46.720-06:002012-10-16T08:14:46.720-06:00Ah, FreeThinke, again and again you insist upon &q...Ah, FreeThinke, again and again you insist upon "discriminating"... so what ever happened to the generally pervasive "liberal" ideological call for "universal tolerance"?<br /><br />The Left see's no "distinguishable" difference between the "deserving" and "undeserving" poor. Widow/Orphan and Crackhead/Addict co-exist and are treated equally in the Sea of Ever Increasing Federal Funding Dependence. Handi-capped and Handi-capable ALL float in the same semiotic boat. And believe me when I say, the "handicapped" might truly be grateful for the charity that they receive, but I can assure you whole heartedly that the "handi-capable" RESENT the HECK out of it!-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16745768408538827278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-85900098719878993752012-10-16T05:23:13.567-06:002012-10-16T05:23:13.567-06:00That's why Jez is my favorite liberal!That's why Jez is my favorite liberal!Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-56583414808033470482012-10-16T01:58:26.783-06:002012-10-16T01:58:26.783-06:00Oh Beamish, just shut up and kiss him.Oh Beamish, just shut up and kiss him.jezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865247084509280406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-57280373779172180332012-10-15T19:44:39.250-06:002012-10-15T19:44:39.250-06:0051% of Catholics support gay marriage, and 59% of ...51% of Catholics support gay marriage, and <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82410.html" rel="nofollow">59% of Catholics support the founding father of gay marriage for Queermander in Chief</a>.<br /><br />Sounds about right.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-77531386976605802732012-10-15T18:47:29.708-06:002012-10-15T18:47:29.708-06:00I understand Nietzsche's point about children ...I understand Nietzsche's point about children and some of society's less fortunate making calculated efforts to win attention by flaunting their minor wounds and pitiable condition. <br /><br /><b><i>However</i>, in so many cases -- and I know this for an absolute fact, because I've spent a tremendous portion of my life involved with children from the ghettos, severely handicapped individuals, the chronically and terminally ill -- people truly are victims of tragic depriving circumstances through no fault of their own -- and BELIEVE ME their need for help and support is NOT something they've contrived in their wicked imaginations merely to PUNISH those who are not so afflicted.</b><br /><br />This is where the Libertarians and the Objectivists and I part company.<br /><br />A vital ingredient is lacking in the character and temperament of those who are incapable of feeling empathy for and exercising charity towards those whose helplessness and suffering are GENUINE.<br /><br />I hate self-righteousness as much as I could hate anything, but I believe it's important for those who would regard me as a selfish, bigoted, hard-hearted racist, and would-be aristocrat that I make it a practice to donate a full 25% of my income -- sometimes more -- to people I know, personally, who are in desperate need of assistance and to animal shelters who do not kill the creatures in their charge.<br /><br />I don't do this out of shame or guilt, nor am I duped by anyone's wily, manipulative tactics. I do it, because I am well aware that <b>"There but for the grace of God, go I."</b> <br /><br /><br /><i>If I can stop one heart from breaking<br />I shall not live in vain.<br />If I can ease one life the aching --<br />Or cool one pain --<br />Or help one fainting robin<br />Unto his nest again<br />I shall not live in vain.</i><br /><br />~ Emily Dickinson (1830-1886)FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-11148926009909512402012-10-15T18:26:09.123-06:002012-10-15T18:26:09.123-06:00Just another milestone demarking the disapearance ...Just another milestone demarking the disapearance of that rare and endangered species known as "conservatives."<br /><br />There's a clear line from the gay orgy called CPAC to the Gay Old Party nominating the founding father of gay marriage.<br /><br />The only reason to vote for Romney over Obama is if you're worried sick that Obama is not going to ask the Boy Scouts to let your child earn a merit badge in sodomy.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-41691637670632628302012-10-15T18:23:51.857-06:002012-10-15T18:23:51.857-06:00"And the Eastern Orthodox church which calls ...<i>"And the Eastern Orthodox church which calls itself the Orthodox Catholic Church and allows married clergy.300 million followers."</i><br /><br />Yes indeed, and Big C Catholicism considers their masses and sacraments valid, as well as their bishops.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-71961487342415509262012-10-15T18:20:03.971-06:002012-10-15T18:20:03.971-06:00New Age = Nuage
Rhymes with sewage.<i>New Age = Nuage</i><br /><br />Rhymes with sewage.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-38909565217472536552012-10-15T18:14:37.121-06:002012-10-15T18:14:37.121-06:00Oh, Thersites, and all this time I thought that An...Oh, Thersites, and all this time I thought that Antigone was simply one of those typical women who would prefer her menfolk to remain at home to till the fields, harvest the crops, do the heavy lifting and fend off rapists and robbers.<br /><br />I've always believed <b>Anti-gone</b> meant <b>Pro-stay</b>. ;-)FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-84931854323066280012012-10-15T18:09:11.267-06:002012-10-15T18:09:11.267-06:00"The Church of Rome honors, celebrates, revel...<i>"The Church of Rome honors, celebrates, revels in, and dedicates herself to the promotion and perpetuation of Universal Ignorance as the most effective means possible of obtaining and maintaining social control."</i><br /><br />All authoritarian-totalitarian organizations and political movements subscribe to that identical philosophy.<br /><br />~ Al TeregoFreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-49624142180714015842012-10-15T17:31:38.227-06:002012-10-15T17:31:38.227-06:00And the Eastern Orthodox church which calls itself...And the Eastern Orthodox church which calls itself the Orthodox Catholic Church and allows married clergy.300 million followers. Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-9183960433015520002012-10-15T17:24:14.942-06:002012-10-15T17:24:14.942-06:00While understanding the difference between Catholi...While understanding the difference between Catholic and catholic, I still maintain that there are no denominations, in the sense of AOWs question "So, why aren't there denominations within the Catholic Church to accommodate dissent?" because the Catholic church views itself as the catholic church and the only legitimate game in town. It does not tolerate dissent.<br /><br />From outside of a Catholic perspective, one could argue that there are denominations of Catholics: Old Catholic Church, American Catholic Church, Celtic Catholic Church, Union of Ultrecht Old Catholic Church, Apostolic Catholic Church, etc.<br /><br />With the exception of the Union of Ultrecht churches of which Rome recognizes their apostolic succession through the Anglican Communion, none of them have recognized apostolic succession. They do recognize the Old Catholic Church as having 'valid sacraments'. <br /><br />Schismatic churches formed after both the Vatican I and Vatican II councils.<br /><br />Oddly enough, with the possible exception of the Celtic Catholic Church, the majority of the schismatic churches are more traditional not more liberal.<br /><br />Cheers!<br />Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-14367082074072690042012-10-15T10:03:39.281-06:002012-10-15T10:03:39.281-06:00Plato, "Theaetetus"
And many arguments ...Plato, "Theaetetus"<br /><br /><i>And many arguments are used to show, that motion is the source of life, and rest of death: fire and warmth are produced by friction, and living creatures owe their origin to a similar cause; the bodily frame is preserved by exercise and destroyed by indolence; and if the sun ceased to move, "chaos would come again." Now apply this doctrine of "All is motion" to the senses, and first of all to the sense of sight. The colour of white, or any other colour, is neither in the eyes nor out of them, but ever in motion between the object and the eye, and varying in the case of every percipient. All is relative, and, as the followers of Protagoras remark, endless contradictions arise when we deny this; e.g. here are six dice; they are more than four and less than twelve; "more and also less," would you not say?' 'Yes.' 'But Protagoras will retort: "Can anything be more or less without addition or subtraction?"' </i><br /><br />"ALL argument is a cuckold and a whore." - Thersites-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16745768408538827278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-51423106656088414122012-10-15T09:46:54.952-06:002012-10-15T09:46:54.952-06:00Kinda makes me want to bury a Vestal Virgin alive ...Kinda makes me want to bury a Vestal Virgin alive of sacrifice a virgin to the volcano, doesn't it?<br /><br />Worshippers of Artemis... ;)-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16745768408538827278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-87419737881263103012012-10-15T09:42:13.486-06:002012-10-15T09:42:13.486-06:00Chastity... the "virtue" of "steril...Chastity... the "virtue" of "sterility".<br /><br />Antigone triumphant!<br /><br /><i>Antigone represents numerous themes such as the very first woman who goes against the Patriarchal society and defies rules, defies subjection or any kind of law. Antigone represents the voice of every woman on Earth. Yet she also represents every renegade or every slave who strives for freedom, for equal rights. The name itself in Greek means An-ti= Against the, gone= gonia = corner , so the name itself is a controversy. Something that is against the saying. Antigone was against Creon's norms and beliefs or sayings. On the other hand, one may interpret the name as the woman who wishes not to have children. Gonos derives from gonimotita that is fertility; now the suffix Anti - gone brings about the meaning of a person who does not want to have any children=Non-fertile. There are variations to the true meaning of Antigone but what Antigone truly represents it depends on how each individual will perceive it.</i>Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-83444342081958893592012-10-15T09:28:08.620-06:002012-10-15T09:28:08.620-06:00Erratum: "Sons and BROTHERS" of Oedipus....Erratum: "Sons and BROTHERS" of Oedipus... above.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-14234000199402199012012-10-15T09:26:15.404-06:002012-10-15T09:26:15.404-06:00lol! Good point, jez.
I hate to inform the moder...lol! Good point, jez.<br /><br />I hate to inform the modern world of this, but in the "ancient" world, virtues were always "opposed" by other "cardinal" virtues. As "courage" was opposed by "temperance". As "wisdom" was opposed by "justice".<br /><br />Meden agan! And THAT applies to "chastity", as well. Where is today's "wise" Eteocles, ever ready to assign a hero to oppose a foeman Argive at the gate in response to his Spy's intelligence? And who better than himself to oppose and battle his "brother" Polynieces?<br /><br />Aeschylus, "Seven Against Thebes"<br /><br />Sons of Oedipus, Antigone stands ready to mourn you, EQUALLY.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-72933896224335558442012-10-15T07:47:22.316-06:002012-10-15T07:47:22.316-06:00Chastity indicates lack too, but that doesn't ...Chastity indicates lack too, but that doesn't mean there is no virtue in it.<br /><br />Voluntary poverty is a recurring biblical theme. It may run counter to intuition, but that is not unusual in the bible. The entire Sermon on the Mount runs counter to intuition.jezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865247084509280406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-59112750700044325062012-10-15T07:44:41.788-06:002012-10-15T07:44:41.788-06:00We hear the cry everywhere today, "I am a vic...We hear the cry everywhere today, "I am a victim!" Why is that?<br /><br />Malice afoot! A desire of the insignificant to inflict a little pain and garner a little attention. Spoiled children.-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16745768408538827278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-38550416910736795822012-10-15T07:42:02.794-06:002012-10-15T07:42:02.794-06:00In order for "poverty" to be considered ...In order for "poverty" to be considered a virtue, those who received "grace" from heaven's more fortunate would generally be "thankful". THEY are NOT.<br /><br />Nieztsche, "Human, All too Human"<br /><br /><i>Observe how children weep and cry, so that they will be pitied, how they wait for the moment when their condition will be noticed. Or live among the ill and depressed, and question whether their eloquent laments and whimpering, the spectacle of their misfortune, is not basically aimed at hurting those present. The pity that the spectators then express consoles the weak and suffering, inasmuch as they see that, despite all their weakness, they still have at least one power: the power to hurt. When expressions of pity make the unfortunate man aware of this feeling of superiority, he gets a kind of pleasure from it; his self-image revives; he is still important enough to inflict pain on the world. Thus the thirst for pity is a thirst for self-enjoyment, and at the expense of one's fellow men. It reveals man in the complete inconsideration of his most intimate dear self, but not precisely in his "stupidity," as La Rochefoucauld thinks. In social dialogue, three-quarters of all questions and answers are framed in order to hurt the participants a little bit; this is why many men thirst after society so much: it gives them a feeling of their strength. In these countless, but very small doses, malevolence takes effect as one of life's powerful stimulants, just as goodwill, dispensed in the same way throughout the human world, is the perennially ready cure.<br /><br />But will there be many people honest enough to admit that it is a pleasure to inflict pain? That not infrequently one amuses himself (and well) by offending other men (at least in his thoughts) and by shooting pellets of petty malice at them? Most people are too dishonest, and a few men are too good, to know anything about this source of shame. So they may try to deny that Prosper Merimée is right when he says, "Sachez aussi qu'il n'y a rien de plus commun que de faire le mal pour le plaisir de le faire." ("Know that nothing is more common than to do harm for the pleasure of doing it:")</i>-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16745768408538827278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-26629314743739045062012-10-15T07:39:46.917-06:002012-10-15T07:39:46.917-06:00@ AOW: "Protestants also believe in "th...@ AOW: <i>"Protestants also believe in "the holy catholic church," but not in the sense of Roman Catholic."</i><br /><br />Actually, Catholics understand it in the same way. In the Nicene Creed, "holy catholic church" is written just as you have written it, catholic with a lower-case c, meaning not the Roman Catholic Church, but the universal church founded by Jesus Christ. <br /><br />Like protestants, Catholics lament that Christ's church has become fractured.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.com