tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post4130838066674797148..comments2023-09-15T08:07:28.542-06:00Comments on Western Hero: Rush to OutrageSilverfiddlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-61021257116236991872012-03-09T19:04:59.758-07:002012-03-09T19:04:59.758-07:00Freethinker, why wouldn't you defer to a woman...Freethinker, why wouldn't you defer to a woman in a discussion of the intrusion of the procedure mandated by Virginia?<br /><br />Unless you've done a little time in "B" wing I doubt you know much about the topic.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-57574391897601258872012-03-09T17:10:15.046-07:002012-03-09T17:10:15.046-07:00"colonoscopy is an elective medical procedure..."colonoscopy is an elective medical procedure not mandated by the state"<br /><br />You miss the point, entirely.<br /><br />Would you tell a rape victim to stop whining about it? It is after all, in your mind, the equivalent of a routine medical appointment at the gynecologist.<br /><br />And as I've said before, the DOJ can define rape as a fluffy pink bunny rabbit or running a stop sign, it is completely and utterly irrelevant to the law, OUR LAWS ARE NOT DEFINED BY THE DOJ! They are defined by our legislatures.<br /><br />I'll leave you with this... if a transvaginal ultrasound is rape, how can a TSA patdown not be sexual harrassment? Last time I checked it was against the law to touch peoples genitals against their will. And don't tell me I don't have to fly, lest I apply the same logic to unreasonble search and seizure and tell you you don't have to walk down the street if you don't want to get searched.<br /><br /><br /><br />Cheers!Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-67270645405227694192012-03-09T15:15:55.610-07:002012-03-09T15:15:55.610-07:00If we're going to expand the definition of &qu...If we're going to expand the definition of "rape," I would like to say that I regard the forcible intrusion by government into my wallet, my bank account, and my investment portfolio as a form of rape.<br /><br />In fact I regard any attempt on the part of Authority to influence, restrict or mandate any aspect of the way I choose to live my life that does not have direct bearing on the life of another to be a form of rape as well.<br /><br />I think both Kurt and I -- and several other frequent contributors here-- have made it abundantly clear that we do not advocate state-mandated intrusion into the cavities, the organs, the bloodstream or the bone marrow of ANYONE'S body for ANY reason whatsoever.<br /><br />I certainly don't feel the state should have a right to FORCE us to do ANYTHING "for our own good."<br /><br />That too should be regarded as a form of rape by these new radical-revisionist standards -- no matter how well-motivated it may seem.<br /><br />The operant word here is FORCE. Let's just say I'm against it categorically and let it go at that.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-65474706442895839792012-03-09T13:02:24.627-07:002012-03-09T13:02:24.627-07:00So when the federal government under ObamaCare dec...So when the federal government under ObamaCare declares mandatory colonoscopies for everyone over 50, I assume you and the outraged left will be right there protesting anal rape...Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-19298595027823438022012-03-09T08:08:07.487-07:002012-03-09T08:08:07.487-07:00"It is no more rape than a colonoscopy is sod..."It is no more rape than a colonoscopy is sodomy. To use Ducky's term, you are engaged in nothing more than agitprop."<br /><br />I need to point out to the person who wrote this that a colonoscopy is an elective medical procedure not mandated by the state. The vaginal probe, which is law in Texas, BTW, is mandated for absolutely no medical reason whatsoever. It is FORCED on women seeking a legal abortion for the only purpose of humiliating her. The DOJ has redefined rape as the insertion of anything into the vagina or anus against anyone's will.<br /><br />So I stand by my characterization that the mandated vaginal probe is state sanctioned rape.<br /><br />Did the state, btw, force you to go to the dentist?Shaw Kenawehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637273000409613497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-42608390399657921312012-03-09T07:03:11.643-07:002012-03-09T07:03:11.643-07:00Free thinke: get a kindle. Really, they're goo...Free thinke: get a kindle. Really, they're good!jezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865247084509280406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-30509634354988338652012-03-09T06:03:03.500-07:002012-03-09T06:03:03.500-07:00AOW, in case you were wondering I agree with your ...AOW, in case you were wondering I <i>agree</i> with your last post -- and others you've made asserting the same logic. I just feel that "we" on the conservative-libertarian side are COMPOUNDING Rush's error, and thus helping "the enemy" by harping on the issue as we've been doing now for several days.<br /><br />I don't think it was "morally wrong" or even "malicious" for him to say what he said, but it certainly was ill-advised given the predatory, vengeance-prone nature of our adversaries.<br /><br />I've already mentioned that I've sensed a change in Rush in latter years. He's become far less witty, less reasoned in his discourse and far more acrimonious. It may be a natural outgrowth of his having lost his hearing. Having long skirted the edges of blindness, myself, I know just how disconcerting the deprivation of one of our five senses can be.<br /><br />~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br /><br />Beamish, that book sounds like a winner. I hope I run across it in my travels, even though I can't really enjoy reading traditional printed matter anymore. I'm pretty much tied to the 'puter for whatever reading I do these days.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-68668458946056520332012-03-09T05:56:36.793-07:002012-03-09T05:56:36.793-07:00Interesting article on Rush Limbaugh's fair-we...Interesting article on Rush Limbaugh's fair-weather sponsors <a href="http://spectator.org/archives/2012/03/05/rally-for-rush/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />Food for thought, and alot of the political backgrounds of Rush's advertisers are troubling even if this Sandra Fluke thing had never happened. <br /><br />It's not my fight, but in a sense Limbaugh ought to be happy he's not going to be implicitly endorsing products that turn their profits into left-wing activism anymore.<br /><br />(It's a crazy mixed up world except for Lola.)(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-87134370802185079972012-03-09T05:43:40.208-07:002012-03-09T05:43:40.208-07:00What I was trying to say in my roundabout way is t...What I was trying to say in my roundabout way is that the desire to muzzle Ducky -- or anyone else who sentiments displease us -- is the exact same desire that makes leftists so desperately anxious to Hush Rush.<br /><br /><b>Most of us are incapable of seeing "tyranny," unless it's OUR particular "ox" that's being gored.</b><br /><br />Principle should always take precedence over partisanship.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-11224032303198520252012-03-09T05:42:50.630-07:002012-03-09T05:42:50.630-07:00FT,
The tale comes from a 1966 book I read in the...FT,<br /><br />The tale comes from a 1966 book I read in the 1970s called "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon," a small paperback collection of anecdotal humor and silly stories surrounding the space race with the Soviets. (There has since been another book with the same title published, but it is a totally unrelated conspiracy theory Apollo moon landing denial screed)<br /><br />NASA dropped the word "Saturn" from the acronym of the Launch Umbilical Tower from which they used to launch Saturn V rockets into space not too long after they came up with the Saturn rocket name in the first place, sometime in the mid 1960s. Seems it caused too much sniggering and laughter among the non-engineers ;)<br /><br />Another good one I remember from that book... Faced with zero-to low gravity conditions in orbit, NASA spent over a million dollars in developing a vaccum pressurized ball point pen that would allow astronauts to write on any surface with continuous ink flow, irrespective of the gravitational conditions. The Russians solved this problem of needing to be able to write on any surface in any given direction by carrying #2 pencils into space.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-55579601713395802582012-03-09T05:40:32.115-07:002012-03-09T05:40:32.115-07:00liberal fanatics such as Chaw. Can't see the f...liberal fanatics such as Chaw. Can't see the failure in the Obumma administration or in Obummer himself a man who can not admit a mistake, let alone ever apologize, but she is so quick to find fault in any and every republican. I guess that haters just gotta hate. Just more Leftist clap-crap being passed off as "Free Speech" How come they never find anything wrong with Chris Matthews, or that goof ball Keith Olberman? I guess that Chaw is very selective with who she picks to boycott.<br />As for the the sponsors who withdrew in order to make the lefties happy ... let them depend on the lefties on welfare for their business. And us Righties will find other companies to patronize.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-86967125932579203892012-03-09T05:36:13.386-07:002012-03-09T05:36:13.386-07:00Fredd said:
"Why do you put up with idiocy f...Fredd said:<br /><br /><i>"Why do you put up with idiocy from Ducky, anyone posting as Anonymous, Grung-e-gene and the like? Your site has become a liberal mosh pit.<br /><br />"C'mon, friend. Buddy. Leader of a good thing. <br /><br />"Don't entertain these enemies of liberty.<br /><br />Flush them ..."</i><br /><br />Fredd, your criticism is not only a gross exaggeration it's also evidence you've fallen into an all-too familiar trap. Don't you understand that what you are suggesting just supplants one for of tyranny with another?<br /><br />One of the best ways to defeat an enemy is to learn as much as you can about him. Beside that it's always wrong to assume that "everything" about someone's thinking is totally wrong.<br /><br />I agree that people like Liberalmann (the former Bd, I suspect!) add little more value to the discussion than ants do to a picnic, but I think it's better just to ignore outright pests like that rather than try to censor or insult them out of existence. <br /><br />Ostracism is a powerful weapon against an unwanted presence.<br /><br />Why? Because ATTENTION is all they truly seek.<br /><br />I say this even though I've gone on record -- <i>and been given hell for it</i> -- as a strong supporter of the idea that that the definition of TREASON ought to be broadened to include participants in organized campaigns consisting of "demonstrations" presenting propaganda both oral and written deliberately designed to give aid and comfort to whatever enemy our country happens to be fighting at any given time.<br /><br />I see the danger, however, that such a policy would easily put us on that famous slippery slope where we could too easily slide into an acceptance of totalitarianism. Are you aware of that danger, Fredd?<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-36481300578956521402012-03-09T05:01:40.140-07:002012-03-09T05:01:40.140-07:00Beamish,
I assume you were joking, but If you tho...Beamish,<br /><br />I assume you were joking, but If you thought NASA'a SLUT acronym was bad, we actually have Senior Citizen's Area Transportation where I live. Imagine seeing buses all over town with <b>SCAT</b> prominently displayed on every side!<br /><br />Clueless, humorless bureaucratic ignorance prominently on display one again.<br /><br />Of course, bad as it is, it's not nearly as embarrassing as those famous T-Shirts from England's now-mercifully defunct <b>S</b>outh <b>H</b>ereford <b>I</b>nstitute of <b>T</b>echnology, is it? <br /><br /><b>};-)></b><br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-24063145472789386832012-03-09T04:53:50.897-07:002012-03-09T04:53:50.897-07:00I keep reading that Limbaugh called Fluke a slut t...I keep reading that Limbaugh called Fluke a slut three days in a row.<br /><br />In my view, doing that for three days was a serious mistake.<br /><br />On Day Two, Limbaugh should have gotten his act together and cited <a href="http://alwaysonwatch3.blogspot.com/2012/03/about-sandra-fluke.html" rel="nofollow">these figures</a>, thereby putting Fluke on the defensive.<br /><br />Instead, Limbaugh apologized and even pronounced himself an entertainer. <br /><br />In my view, Obama took control of the narrative. Oh, sure, that's not the case for many conservatives. But for those of us -- right, left, and center -- who don't listen to Limbaugh (Yes, many folks don't listen to Limbaugh), Limbaugh hasn't come off well in this present dust up.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-28986115742620482272012-03-09T04:49:54.977-07:002012-03-09T04:49:54.977-07:00So much repetition of the same points (and the sam...So much repetition of the same points (and the same complaints) over and over again!<br /><br />A MODEST SUGGESTION:<br /><br />We ought to read each other's remarks carefully and acknowledge what others have already said when we agree -- or make a cogent-but-polite argument against it if we don't.<br /><br />Quoting each other to help illustrate points we wish to emphasize would not only enrich and enliven the discussion, it would add much needed element of <i>graciousness</i> and <i>good form</i> to the proceedings as well.<br /><br />Finntann said this up not too far up the line the line:<br /><br /><i><b>'Shaw, I agree with you regarding the inappropriateness of the proposed (and pretty much finished) Virginia law. It is as inappropriate and wrong as the administrations 'rule' on contraception.<br /><br />'I might however, point out that the use of the term "rape" to describe it is obscene, and demeans the significance of the term. It is no more rape than a colonoscopy is sodomy. To use Ducky's term, you are engaged in nothing more than agitprop.'</b></i><br /><br />BRAVO, Finntann! I couldn't agree more, but I did write words to the same effect, myself, not too long ago. <br /><br />Let me add that I emphasize this not to denigrate Ms. Shaw Kenawe, whom I instinctively like and respect despite our vast differences in political philosophy, but only to emphasize the ineluctable logic of Finntann's position.<br /><br />If only we could REASON with one another, instead of sneering, insulting, castigating while shouting epithets across The Great Divide <br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-22854857180587197792012-03-09T01:30:27.682-07:002012-03-09T01:30:27.682-07:00Rush to be fired over this. LOL
Get lost liberals...Rush to be fired over this. LOL<br /><br />Get lost liberals, you can demand it, but we'll just laugh at you. Nice try but no cigar chumps.MathewKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385674205383405783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-22344350032743260272012-03-09T00:29:32.493-07:002012-03-09T00:29:32.493-07:00Fintann,
Back when NASA was trying to reach the ...Fintann, <br /><br />Back when NASA was trying to reach the Moon rather than its worshippers, they changed the name of their "Saturn Launch Umbilical Tower" because of some unfortunate acronym. ;)(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-64785809572518921492012-03-08T23:01:59.027-07:002012-03-08T23:01:59.027-07:00"Hm. It's late and I am weary from a leng..."Hm. It's late and I am weary from a lengthy day, but let me say, as one Conservative, that libertarians want legal pot, just like liberals and progressives."<br /><br />As one Libertarian, I'll say you are 100% dead-on, correct and display a firm grasp of the obvious.<br /><br />Do you have a point?<br /><br />I'll make mine:<br /><br />I don't care what you smoke, eat, or drink... just don't expect me to pay for your rehab, or support your habit. Likewise, I don't care if you wear a motorcycle helmet, wear a seatbelt, or go skiing in a speedo and die of hypothermia.<br /><br />Your choice, your right, your responsibility, you suffer the consequences. Isn't that what adults are supposed to do?<br /><br />Honestly, your laws don't stop me from smoking pot, and your legalizing it won't get me to start. It does however cost us an awful lot of money in enforcement, and punishment, money that could be better spent elsewhere... or here's a brilliant idea... not taxed in the first place.<br /><br />Cheers!Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-11538456898236299802012-03-08T22:46:55.872-07:002012-03-08T22:46:55.872-07:00Jersey, you're the one preoccupied with sex......Jersey, you're the one preoccupied with sex... it has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with government power.<br /><br />Should all grocery stores be required by the federal government to carry goat's milk?<br /><br />I honestly don't believe that the Catholic church has any issue with hormone replacement therapy. <br /><br />The church believes that sex is for procreation not recreation. They object to the use of hormone therapy to enable risk-free recreational sex and intefere with the process of procreation.<br /><br />As cited previously, the figures from the Guttmacher Institute (the one used to claim 98% of women use birth control) also state that 92% of the use of the pill is for birth control, it is only prescribed medicinally 8% of the time.<br /><br />So yes, insurance companies should be allowed to decline coverage of the pill for non-medicinal use, just like they should be allowed to decline MMJ for non-medicinal use, it is no different than grocery stores not stocking Pepsi, or Hallmark stores not carrying Playboy.<br /><br />It's none of yours, or the governments business. Don't like it, find another insurance company or another employer.<br /><br />If your maid doesn't do windows, are you going to pass a law to make her? Or are you going to find another maid if you want your windows cleaned.<br /><br />It is you liberals obfuscating the issue with claims of interference in reproductive rights. No one is advocating stopping you from reproducing, no one is stopping you from buying contraceptives.<br /><br />If it is as you claim, not a moral issue, and cost saving in the long term... why don't insurance companies cover it for free? Why is it an issue?<br /><br />Honestly, you're sexually paranoid if you think I give a damn whether or not you or anyone else uses birth control. I simply don't want to have to underwrite your sexual escapades with my tax dollars, nor do I want to see anyone else forced to violate their religious beliefs to accomodate your desire to get laid - and not just laid, but really good laid. <br /><br />Cheers!Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-63522887872202160082012-03-08T21:43:14.566-07:002012-03-08T21:43:14.566-07:00It comes down to this:
Should insurance, a federa...It comes down to this:<br /><br />Should insurance, a federally and state regulated industry, be allowed to decline to cover the pill?<br /><br />If you say it should, you are a sexually uptight, fucked-up individual, who really needs to get laid - and not just laid, but really good laid. You need it bad.<br /><br />Now. That said. You also have to grow up, be civic minded, and realize that the pill is not just for sex. Grow up. Realize that. read something (other than Right Wing stupidity) once in a while.<br /><br />The pill is for a host of physiological problems women naturally and unnaturally have. We're not perfect, we're human beings. Men have their hernias, and bad backs and knees, etc, well, women have something a lot more problematic than those. Pain is one thing, having your entire body constantly regulating itself for the sake of making babies must be really annoying sometimes.<br /><br />So, women take the pill for all sorts of reasons, and it IS a health matter, no different than any other, as it does effect life, and so if prescribed by a doctor, then shouldn't it be covered like anything else?<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-80332269502979651542012-03-08T21:35:23.903-07:002012-03-08T21:35:23.903-07:00Kurt,
You said:
"Also, you are conflating co...Kurt,<br /><br />You said:<br />"Also, you are conflating conservatism and libertarianism. Conservatives will use the power of the state to bring about their vision of a better society, just as a progressive will.<br /><br />A libertarian eschews such use of state power."<br /><br />Hm. It's late and I am weary from a lengthy day, but let me say, as one Conservative, that libertarians want legal pot, just like liberals and progressives.<br /><br />(It's not fun being blanket-statemented is it?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-85104907001256288192012-03-08T21:12:52.386-07:002012-03-08T21:12:52.386-07:00Fredd: This is a place for debate. Some of it is...Fredd: This is a place for debate. Some of it is reasoned and some of it stands as a totem of absurdity, but it is all instructive.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-34267515572148728522012-03-08T21:06:19.899-07:002012-03-08T21:06:19.899-07:00Silver:
Your commenters are mostly liberal fanati...Silver:<br /><br />Your commenters are mostly liberal fanatics. They are trying to drown your philosphy, and seem to be succeeding.<br /><br />You are a conservative guy.<br /><br />Why do you put up with idiocy from Ducky, anyone posting as Anonymous, Grung-e-gene and the like? Your site has become a liberal mosh pit.<br /><br />C'mon, friend. Buddy. Leader of a good thing. <br /><br />Don't entertain these enemies of liberty.<br /><br />Flush them, not Rush.Freddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10778430453468720627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-75510861322360176462012-03-08T20:54:25.864-07:002012-03-08T20:54:25.864-07:00I don't condone what he said, but I would neve...I don't condone what he said, but I would never turn my back on him. I believe he will recover from this media circus and continue doing what he does best, exposing the Left.Trekkie4Everhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03226981394122557804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-7401817157056137312012-03-08T20:53:19.197-07:002012-03-08T20:53:19.197-07:00It is intrusive, Shaw, and government literally ha...It is intrusive, Shaw, and government literally has no business there. I said so in an earlier post, but this is where progressivism has brought us. You can't cheer when government shoves its hands in people's pockets to pay for your birth control, and then complain when the same government shoves a probe somewhere else.<br /><br />Also, you are conflating conservatism and libertarianism. Conservatives will use the power of the state to bring about their vision of a better society, just as a progressive will.<br /><br />A libertarian eschews such use of state power.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.com