tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post4161361668861188280..comments2023-09-15T08:07:28.542-06:00Comments on Western Hero: LiberscarianismSilverfiddlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comBlogger76125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-8138554818031867132012-01-27T07:33:08.828-07:002012-01-27T07:33:08.828-07:00"The drug war is both a) the first issue you ..."The drug war is both a) the first issue you brought up, and b) a perfect metaphor for the right's acceptance of the omnipotent state (and accompanying dismissal of constitutional government)."<br /><br />As for (b) not in the least. Fighting against rampant crime does not dismiss the constitution,dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-935757332192692732012-01-10T15:52:43.663-07:002012-01-10T15:52:43.663-07:00"Kirk and modern conservatism have little, if...<i>"Kirk and modern conservatism have little, if anything, in common."</i> <br /><br />I agree with you there, which is why I invoked Kirk as the my standard for conservatism.<br /><br />Nowhere did you use my arguments against me. I was not standing up for the drug war or a war against blasphemy. I was describing the perception of some conservatives and saying we should not simply discount their fears. <br /><br />I never said "government reflects society" and I certainly do not confuse the people with the state.<br /><br />I notice you skipped over my analysis of the illogical thinking regarding blowback, foreign policy and Paul's "constitutionalism."<br /><br />You Paulists are going to have to learn that huffily asserting your point of view won't get you far. People want debates, and it is common for people to cling to their ways. If you can't explain yourself expect to remain on the fringe.<br /><br />People don't like being preached at, and the inability to discuss issues dispassionately will be your undoing. No man, including Ron Paul, is above analysis and criticism, so get over yourself if you can't rationally discuss the merits and demerits of your candidate without getting defensive.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-87115685881696974842012-01-10T13:49:54.095-07:002012-01-10T13:49:54.095-07:00The drug war is both a) the first issue you brough...The drug war is both a) the first issue you brought up, and b) a perfect metaphor for the right's acceptance of the omnipotent state (and accompanying dismissal of constitutional government).<br /><br />The idea that "we" and the state are one in the same is a dangerous leftwing ideology.<br /><br />If you don't understand that the rest of my comment is me applying your own arguments against you, please read it again. I would have loved to have argued substance, but you didn't present any to argue against.<br /><br />Oh, and on your next post regarding Kirk ... You do know that Kirk advocated the same foreign policy as Paul, right? Kirk and modern conservatism have little, if anything, in common.theCLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13347161730925465757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-42210280852578515482012-01-09T05:51:58.411-07:002012-01-09T05:51:58.411-07:00TheCL: "I find the idea that ending the Drug ...TheCL: "I find the idea that ending the Drug War equals "mainstreaming drug use" both scary and offensive"<br /><br />I find the idea of lifting the main restriction on drug abuse to by scary and offensive. And lifting this restriction would indeed mainstream drug abuse.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-74774007069287989152012-01-08T20:42:27.351-07:002012-01-08T20:42:27.351-07:00Name calling? You just did a pretty good job your...Name calling? You just did a pretty good job yourself, and you've proven my point with your specious argumentation.<br /><br />I did not defend the war on drugs. I explained why legalization worries people. If you want to dismiss that, great. Snotty condescension rarely wins people to your side. <br /><br />Funny how you zeroed in on the drug part. I didn't even make a for or against argument there.<br /><br />Anyway, if you hated this post, you will positively loathe tomorrow's.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-33667145264003387912012-01-08T20:14:21.950-07:002012-01-08T20:14:21.950-07:00No, Gary Johnson has never advocated legalizing he...No, Gary Johnson has never advocated legalizing heroin. However Paul has, and I agree. Seeing that he came within 3 percentage points of Romney in the caucus (statistically insignificant), ending the Drug War obviously isn't as scary to so many people as you seem to think.<br /><br />I find the idea that ending the Drug War equals "mainstreaming drug use" both scary and offensive. Government does not determine our culture. My German Lutheran grandparents church held beer garden every Sunday after church during the prohibition years. They believed (as I do) that what belongs to God is not the providence of the state.<br /><br />Before you say "government reflects society," think about what the Drug War actually means - violence and the usurpation of natural rights. Come to think of it, that does describe our society. Not very well, though, does it? Nisbet wins that one!<br /><br />Oh, further reflecting poorly on our society is our lack of respect for the rule of law too. The Constitution does not provide the power to prohibit such things as a plant that grows in the ground. But "we're" willing to overlook that "technicality," aren't we?<br /><br />The federal government never waged a war on "blasphemy [and] pornography." But then again, not that long ago, most Americans didn't think of the fedgov as "we."<br /><br />Let me ask you this ... A failed Tea Party candidate recently called for the assassination of President Obama and his family. What is it about the Tea Party that attracts these types of nutjobs?<br /><br />Do you still beat your mom?<br /><br />It's good to know that the federal government can intervene overseas without consequence. Why is it then, that they can't do it without consequence here at home too?<br /><br /><em>If you aren't with Ron Paul on Israel you are a neocon.</em><br /><br />Don't need to resort to such a cheap attack, because it would be rather easy to argue that you've embraced much of the neoconservative philosophy* both at home and abroad. But none the less, all those accusations are fair, after all, look how many wild accusations (along with petty name-calling) you've employed in this one post alone. Goose. Gander?<br /><br />I could carry on, but the vast majority of your post is hyperbole, wild-accusations, and pathetic, simple-minded name-calling. And it's this, the childish name-calling, that is the primary reason Republican Party sycophants (who run around as self-styled "conservatives" and/or "libertarians") will have to "beat Obama" without us stoopid "Paulistas." Good luck with that!theCLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13347161730925465757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-48908418599805035332012-01-07T01:44:58.804-07:002012-01-07T01:44:58.804-07:00Speaking of memes this is The UEBER MEME hovering ...Speaking of memes this is The UEBER MEME hovering about every Denigration Derby on the subject of Ron Paul:<br /><br /><b>If you are not one-hundred percent in favor of the Global War On Terror, you must automatically be categorized as an <i>ANTI-SEMITE</i>.</b><br /><br />This has happened to both Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul.<br /><br />An accusation of anti-Semitism guarantees you a one-way ticket to Hell.<br /><br />The concept of using accusations of anti-Semitism as a means of banning even the <i>mention</i> of certain topics and shutting down debate is the Great-Grandfather of Political-Correctness. <br /><br />THAT is where it all got started.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-46590745406819697132012-01-06T19:38:31.284-07:002012-01-06T19:38:31.284-07:00Legalize drugs. Illegalize public-funded emergency...Legalize drugs. Illegalize public-funded emergency overdose treatments. ;)(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-64754744609673344272012-01-06T17:29:05.181-07:002012-01-06T17:29:05.181-07:00I'm for leaving people the hell alone, so long...I'm for leaving people the hell alone, so long as the state leaves me alone when those people blow their brains out on drugs.<br /><br />If we implement libertarian law we must first be prepared to live with the libertarian consequences.<br /><br />Unbridled personal liberty and hammocks disguised as safety nets do not go hand in hand.<br /><br />Wall Street runs wild because they are backstopped by taxpayers.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-75296880439014397472012-01-06T13:46:43.611-07:002012-01-06T13:46:43.611-07:00"I think marijuana legalization is a great id...<b>"I think marijuana legalization is a great idea."</b><br /><br /><i>I strongly disagree. We need less drug abuse, not more.</i><br /><br />Because of increased "social costs" you're hip with ponying up to pay anyway, right now?(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-23827751221079522892012-01-06T10:56:49.449-07:002012-01-06T10:56:49.449-07:00An excellent analysis of wrong-headed thinking by ...An excellent analysis of wrong-headed thinking by Paulians. Thanks for this. Will link you ASAP.Stogiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05852841950131130696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-41685790612432102432012-01-06T06:38:52.723-07:002012-01-06T06:38:52.723-07:00beamish said: "I think marijuana legalization...beamish said: "I think marijuana legalization is a great idea.":<br /><br />I strongly disagree. We need less drug abuse, not more.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-19376009337362816312012-01-06T06:35:39.236-07:002012-01-06T06:35:39.236-07:00Ducky the antisemite lied: " [Iran] represent...Ducky the antisemite lied: " [Iran] represents no threat to us."<br /><br />This nation has killed hundreds of innocent Americans, and has openly threatened us many times.<br /><br />"The threat is to our valued "allies" Saudi Arabia and Israel."<br /><br />It's more than a threat to Israel. It's a threat to exterminate its population of more than 5 million Jews. Which is OK for you since you support "criticising" Israeli's rights to live.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-40126735160495887622012-01-06T06:33:48.590-07:002012-01-06T06:33:48.590-07:00"Ron Paul's foreign policy is naive and d..."Ron Paul's foreign policy is naive and dangerous."<br /><br />Very true. It's based on a nasty combination of ignorance, and contempt for the lives of foreigners.<br /><br />Other reasons I dislike Ron Paul:<br /><br />1) He wrote a bunch of nasty racist things about black people in his newsletter.<br /><br />2) He favors stripping native-born Americans of citizenship due to the supposes crimes of their parents.<br /><br />And a personal one<br /><br />3) His local group of supporters once trashed my church parking lot.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-62848032502900759732012-01-05T23:17:07.755-07:002012-01-05T23:17:07.755-07:00Crap, indeed!
Sorry, Kurt. I should ha known.
~ ...Crap, indeed!<br /><br />Sorry, Kurt. I should ha known.<br /><br />~ FTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-59649693321145610232012-01-05T22:58:27.443-07:002012-01-05T22:58:27.443-07:00Oh crap... Poetry wars have come to Right Blogista...<i>Oh crap... Poetry wars have come to Right Blogistan...</i><br /><br />I don't have a banjo.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-52699368971720736572012-01-05T22:23:59.147-07:002012-01-05T22:23:59.147-07:00Oh crap... Poetry wars have come to Right Blogist...Oh crap... Poetry wars have come to Right Blogistan...Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-32069803076271770962012-01-05T22:17:31.428-07:002012-01-05T22:17:31.428-07:00The sun was shining on the sea,
Shining with all ...<b>The sun was shining on the sea,<br /> Shining with all his might:<br /> He did his very best to make<br /> The billows smooth and bright--<br /> And this was odd, because it was<br /> The middle of the night.<br /><br /> The moon was shining sulkily,<br /> Because she thought the sun<br /> Had got no business to be there<br /> After the day was done--<br /> "It's very rude of him," she said,<br /> "To come and spoil the fun!"<br /><br /> The sea was wet as wet could be,<br /> The sands were dry as dry.<br /> You could not see a cloud, because<br /> No cloud was in the sky:<br /> No birds were flying overhead--<br /> There were no birds to fly.<br /><br /> The Walrus and the Carpenter<br /> Were walking close at hand;<br /> They wept like anything to see<br /> Such quantities of sand:<br /> "If this were only cleared away,"<br /> They said, "it would be grand!"<br /><br /> "If seven maids with seven mops<br /> Swept it for half a year.<br /> Do you suppose," the Walrus said,<br /> "That they could get it clear?"<br /> "I doubt it," said the Carpenter,<br /> And shed a bitter tear.<br /><br /> "O Oysters, come and walk with us!"<br /> The Walrus did beseech.<br /> "A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,<br /> Along the briny beach:<br /> We cannot do with more than four,<br /> To give a hand to each."<br /><br /> The eldest Oyster looked at him,<br /> But never a word he said:<br /> The eldest Oyster winked his eye,<br /> And shook his heavy head--<br /> Meaning to say he did not choose<br /> To leave the oyster-bed.<br /><br /> But four young Oysters hurried up,<br /> All eager for the treat:<br /> Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,<br /> Their shoes were clean and neat--<br /> And this was odd, because, you know,<br /> They hadn't any feet.<br /><br /> Four other Oysters followed them,<br /> And yet another four;<br /> And thick and fast they came at last,<br /> And more, and more, and more--<br /> All hopping through the frothy waves,<br /> And scrambling to the shore.<br /><br /> The Walrus and the Carpenter<br /> Walked on a mile or so,<br /> And then they rested on a rock<br /> Conveniently low:<br /> And all the little Oysters stood<br /> And waited in a row.<br /><br /> "The time has come," the Walrus said,<br /> "To talk of many things:<br /> Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--<br /> Of cabbages--and kings--<br /> And why the sea is boiling hot--<br /> And whether pigs have wings."<br /><br /> "But wait a bit," the Oysters cried,<br /> "Before we have our chat;<br /> For some of us are out of breath,<br /> And all of us are fat!"<br /> "No hurry!" said the Carpenter.<br /> They thanked him much for that.<br /><br /> "A loaf of bread," the Walrus said,<br /> "Is what we chiefly need:<br /> Pepper and vinegar besides<br /> Are very good indeed--<br /> Now if you're ready, Oysters dear,<br /> We can begin to feed."<br /><br /> "But not on us!" the Oysters cried,<br /> Turning a little blue.<br /> "After such kindness, that would be<br /> A dismal thing to do!"<br /> "The night is fine," the Walrus said.<br /> "Do you admire the view?<br /><br /> "It was so kind of you to come!<br /> And you are very nice!"<br /> The Carpenter said nothing but<br /> "Cut us another slice:<br /> I wish you were not quite so deaf--<br /> I've had to ask you twice!"<br /><br /> "It seems a shame," the Walrus said,<br /> "To play them such a trick,<br /> After we've brought them out so far,<br /> And made them trot so quick!"<br /> The Carpenter said nothing but<br /> "The butter's spread too thick!"<br /><br /> "I weep for you," the Walrus said:<br /> "I deeply sympathize."<br /> With sobs and tears he sorted out<br /> Those of the largest size,<br /> Holding his pocket-handkerchief<br /> Before his streaming eyes.<br /><br /> "O Oysters," said the Carpenter,<br /> "You've had a pleasant run!<br /> Shall we be trotting home again?'<br /> But answer came there none--<br /> And this was scarcely odd, because<br /> They'd eaten every one.</b> - Lewis Carroll, in "Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There," 1872(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-72856876340585770972012-01-05T21:56:37.476-07:002012-01-05T21:56:37.476-07:00He preached upon "Breadth" till it argue...<b><i>He preached upon "Breadth" till it argued him narrow ––<br />The Broad are too broad to define<br />And of "Truth" until it proclaimed him a Liar --<br />The Truth never flaunted a Sign --<br /><br />Simplicity fled from his counterfeit presence<br />As Gold the Pyrites would shun --<br />What confusion would cover the innocent Jesus<br />To meet so enabled a Man!</i></b><br /><br />~ Emily Dickinson (1830-1886)<br /><br />Submitted by FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-25186208250308097092012-01-05T21:43:17.336-07:002012-01-05T21:43:17.336-07:00People who gleefully practice The Politics of Char...<i>People who gleefully practice The Politics of Character Assassination are beneath contempt.</i><br /><br />Agreed. Let's find them nasty devils whut made Ron Paul's newsletters say whut they do.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-86783786032104091592012-01-05T21:29:42.727-07:002012-01-05T21:29:42.727-07:00"I'd rather have Newt Gingrich as Secreta...<b>"I'd rather have Newt Gingrich as Secretary of State, but there are no Republican candidates smart enough to choose him for that."</b><br /><br /><i>Gad, that's a nasty thought, in my opinion; but, don't worry...he'll be promised something to step aside. Wait for it.</i><br /><br />Maybe he should grumble about the establishment harrasing him and running him out on a rail on bogus ethics charges for his willingness to shut down the government to bring back fiscal responsibility. Nod and wink at the camera a bit. Maybe throw out a few "you betcha" lines (but don't set a real wager, please), and maybe a bus tour. Or should he have done the walrus-bashing reality TV series first? <br /><br />Nah, we don't even know if his daughter can dance.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-23525666332589037192012-01-05T21:16:43.014-07:002012-01-05T21:16:43.014-07:00Mitt Romney's PAC has given over a million dol...<a href="http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00449280&cycle=2010" rel="nofollow">Mitt Romney's PAC</a> has given over a million dollars to mostly "Tea Party" candidates in state Governor, US Senate, and US House of Representative races outside his home state and Congressional district.<br /><br />How much money did you send to the Tea-stablishment?(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-5884770161887407232012-01-05T19:13:07.574-07:002012-01-05T19:13:07.574-07:00"[D]on't worry... [Newt Gingrich] will be...<i>"[D]on't worry... [Newt Gingrich] will be promised something to step aside. Wait for it."</i><br /><br />Z! How astute! The thought sent a chill up my spine, but sadly it has the ring of truth about it.<br /><br />All discernible "vibrations" indicate that The Establishment (meaning the RNC, the DNC, The Media, and the Corporate Magnates, International Bankers and Owners and Suppliers of Raw Materials who control everything surreptitiously behind the scenes) have decided that whether "We the People" like it or not, <b>MITT ROMNEY is GOING to be the Republican candidate in 2012</b>.<br /><br />It's in the wind -- I can positively SMELL it, and it <i>STINKS</i> to HIGH HEAVEN.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-88364492613184898932012-01-05T19:04:10.577-07:002012-01-05T19:04:10.577-07:00"Please elaborate."
Oh come on, SilverF...<i>"Please elaborate."</i><br /><br />Oh come on, SilverFiddle! Does she REALLY need to? <br /><br />I think I understand perfectly well what she means -- and is was NOT intended as a slam at <i>you</i>, believe me.<br /><br />I would not choose to call it "ignorance," however. Irrationality, spite and <i>malice</i> would be more appropriate terms.<br /><br />Trumpeting bigots live to indulge in intellectual thuggery. Their primary purpose is to confound, confuse, inflame and divide everyone within "earshot." <br /><br />As they saying goes, <b>"We learn much more about ________ from what he says about Paul than we learn about Paul."</b><br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-29498838333376646092012-01-05T18:48:19.385-07:002012-01-05T18:48:19.385-07:00Beamish "I'd rather have Newt Gingrich as...Beamish "I'd rather have Newt Gingrich as Secretary of State, but there are no Republican candidates smart enough to choose him for that."<br /><br />Gad, that's a nasty thought, in my opinion; but, don't worry...he'll be promised something to step aside. Wait for it.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.com