tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post4494123839592806350..comments2023-09-15T08:07:28.542-06:00Comments on Western Hero: Gay is Here to StaySilverfiddlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comBlogger221125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-24205628031281392692012-05-20T21:07:01.733-06:002012-05-20T21:07:01.733-06:00Define fair jmj.Define fair jmj.Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-13252266007149418112012-05-20T15:47:01.011-06:002012-05-20T15:47:01.011-06:00Is this conversation REALLY worth having?Is this conversation REALLY worth having?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-16413009736384937862012-05-20T15:45:11.990-06:002012-05-20T15:45:11.990-06:00OCD is a dreadful disease! Probably worse even tha...OCD is a dreadful disease! Probably worse even than AIDS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-38233853554650014852012-05-20T11:10:45.147-06:002012-05-20T11:10:45.147-06:00Will AIDS cases have to reach these levels before ...Will AIDS cases have to reach these levels before "Libertarians" feel a need to act?<br /><br /><i>By 1864, one out of three sick cases in the army were caused by venereal disease; admissions into hospitals for gonorrhoea and syphilis reached 290.7 per 1,000 of total troop strength.</i><br /><br />And seeing as how there were no effective treatments for these diseases... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillin" rel="nofollow">penicillin</a> not becoming a recognized treatment until the early (see Tuskeegee syphilis experiments) twentieth century.... one wonders how <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Syphilis_false_shame_and_fear_may_destroy_your_future.png" rel="nofollow">libertarians</a> would have dealt with the issue.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-75849728059788457072012-05-20T10:56:06.969-06:002012-05-20T10:56:06.969-06:00... or a serious curtailment of individual liberti...... or a serious curtailment of individual liberties.<br /><br />As Isaiah Berlin once stated, one of the few things he ever discovered on his own was that many of the "great goods" cannot survive together, and that we may be forced to "choose" amongst them... and such is the "tragic" nature of choice.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-10507903087337006302012-05-20T10:50:19.755-06:002012-05-20T10:50:19.755-06:00And we (humankind) "minimize" the risks ...And we (humankind) "minimize" the risks of STDs when we encourage monogamy and discourage acts of sodomy.<br /><br />The facts that gays are very promiscuous is what "generally" leads to their premature demise, not individual acts of sodomy "per se". Homosexual marriage would be a very good attitude for them to adopt EXCEPT that to condone a relationship built upon the act of sodomy places the other 98% of heterosexuals at risk.<br /><br />You can't have it "both" ways with laws. The only "fair" and "consistent" choice you can offer is whether you outlaw sodomy or criminalize all sex outside of marriage between non-married spouses. Pick your poison. There are no win-wins that don't constitute a significant risk to public health.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-41636511399320474812012-05-20T10:42:00.904-06:002012-05-20T10:42:00.904-06:00And it isn't MY attitude that is causing gays ...And it isn't MY attitude that is causing gays to commit suicide, it's THEIR attitude being reinforced by people like you who lead them to believe that THEY (homosexuals) are being singled out for repression out of nothing but pure "hatred" or the "ignorance of the religious". Nothing could be further from the truth. The "truth" is, that the act of male sodomy endangers all humankind... and that acts of sexual reproduction CANNOT be made illegal, unless we want to erase the human presence from our planet.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-68779769451641505852012-05-20T10:38:09.637-06:002012-05-20T10:38:09.637-06:00In fact it does, care to discuss the death rate of...<i>In fact it does, care to discuss the death rate of syphilis in Victorian England?</i><br /><br />Sure. Shall we start with the enactment of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagious_Diseases_Acts" rel="nofollow">Contagious Diseases Acts</a> or skip right to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_Kingdom" rel="nofollow">Sexual Offenses Act of 2003</a> that makes prostitution legal, but paying for sex, illegal?<br /><br />The history of protecting the public from contagious sexually transmitted diseases is long and storied. And so that one must be "licensed" to legally engage in it, up until recently has been consider, un-controversial.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-45659479856481663722012-05-20T09:26:45.778-06:002012-05-20T09:26:45.778-06:00@ "gays commit suicide at greater rates than ...@ "gays commit suicide at greater rates than heterosexuals... so is sodomy a contributing factor to their propensity to commit suicide?"<br /><br />Probably, but then again, attitudes like yours probably contribute too.<br /><br />Switching charts and altering the time period in question takes nothing away from what I presented as fact.<br /><br />In fact it does, care to discuss the death rate of syphilis in Victorian England?<br /><br />Welcome to the 21st Century!Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-15966558069724098052012-05-20T05:35:03.422-06:002012-05-20T05:35:03.422-06:00ps - gays commit suicide at greater rates than het...ps - gays commit suicide at greater rates than heterosexuals... so is sodomy a contributing factor to their propensity to commit suicide? I'd say it was. But were I to need to trade 100,000 gay suicides against 20,000,000 AIDS sodomy deaths... I'd make that trade in favour of preventing AIDS deaths. F thegays and their need to feel GOProud.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-16595711981173039162012-05-20T05:27:59.718-06:002012-05-20T05:27:59.718-06:00I, on the other hand, am numerate and scientific E...I, on the other hand, am numerate and scientific ENOUGH not to place a great deal of faith in the precise statistics generated from a "survey" of women asking them if "they ever took it up the *ss" or not. I suspect that a LOT of people, Mrs Finntann and Jez included, would LIE were they ever asked THAT question.<br /><br />And my rankings came from a chart specific to 2001. Switching charts and altering the time period in question takes nothing away from what I presented as fact.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-52242197643444922552012-05-20T05:00:33.635-06:002012-05-20T05:00:33.635-06:00...but you don't want ANYONE to interfere wit......but you don't want ANYONE to interfere with your self-proclaimed "right to be stupid", eh FinnTann?Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-40677141507305342122012-05-20T04:57:48.537-06:002012-05-20T04:57:48.537-06:00...not spelling the words exactly right or having ......not spelling the words exactly right or having the sequence in a very smal list of leading causes of DEATH perfectly right.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-18218825989514518322012-05-20T04:55:21.451-06:002012-05-20T04:55:21.451-06:00Then its the leading cause of eaily PREVNTABLE dea...Then its the leading cause of eaily PREVNTABLE death in the world.<br /><br />Which really, is THE POINT.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-1101263869807325392012-05-20T01:43:40.014-06:002012-05-20T01:43:40.014-06:00@"Its the leading cause of death in the world...@"Its the leading cause of death in the world"<br /><br />No, actually it's not... it is the cause of 3.1%<br /><br />Heart disease, followed by stroke, lower respiratory infections, COPD, and diarrhoeal diseases all exceed HIV/AIDS as leading causes of death worldwide.<br /><br />It is the third leading cause of death in low income countries, at 7.8%<br /><br />It is the sixth leading cause in middle income countries at 2.7%<br /><br />And it DOESN'T EVEN MAKE THE LIST for high income countries.<br /><br />In the US you even have a greater chance of dying in an accident, committing suicide, or getting murdered than dying of HIV. It doesn't even make the top 15 in the US.<br /><br />http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs310/en/index.html<br /><br />http://www.who.int/gho/publications/world_health_statistics/EN_WHS2012_Full.pdf<br /><br />http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/deaths_2009_release.pdf<br /><br />You're about as good at science as you are at math.Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-77149654334184120862012-05-20T01:10:51.146-06:002012-05-20T01:10:51.146-06:00How on earth did this get published? You've wa...How on earth did this get published? You've warmth me another ice cream. How many is that now?!jezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865247084509280406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-4735210598742945722012-05-19T22:11:14.032-06:002012-05-19T22:11:14.032-06:00Will Rogers said, "I never met a man I didn&#...Will Rogers said, "I never met a man I didn't like."<br /><br />Does that mean Will Rogers had to have been gay?<br /><br />~ FTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-72711833177301333802012-05-19T22:07:37.350-06:002012-05-19T22:07:37.350-06:00Sodomy: The oldest - and the surest -- form of bir...Sodomy: The oldest - and the surest -- form of birth control.<br /><br />- FTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-22701727691151548602012-05-19T15:42:19.078-06:002012-05-19T15:42:19.078-06:00...for sodomy is the primary contributor to that s......for sodomy is the primary contributor to that sad fact.<br /><br />How many more million need to die in the name of <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/libertinism" rel="nofollow">libertinism</a>? Are you a libertarian or a libertine? There IS. a difference.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-85083814868818925592012-05-19T15:29:13.016-06:002012-05-19T15:29:13.016-06:00Its the leading cause of death in the world, and i...<a href="http://ucatlas.ucsc.edu/cause.php" rel="nofollow">Its the leading cause of death</a> in the world, and its entirely PREVENTABLE were it not ENCOURAGED by irresponsible idiots.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-76637341092680776362012-05-19T13:50:53.234-06:002012-05-19T13:50:53.234-06:00Your obsession with Sodomy is impressive.Your obsession with Sodomy is impressive.Finntannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09234170229108668040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-18667169396808501102012-05-19T09:00:58.742-06:002012-05-19T09:00:58.742-06:00I'd say that there was a large and definitely ...I'd say that there was a large and definitely OBVIOUS impact of sodomy upon health. The life expectancy of male homosexuals being but one example:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/yet-another-study-confirms-gay-life-expectancy-20-years-shorter" rel="nofollow">20 Years</a> shorter...Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-37401090415731583212012-05-19T08:58:06.798-06:002012-05-19T08:58:06.798-06:00ignoring the role of needle sharing
Access to nee...<i>ignoring the role of needle sharing</i><br /><br />Access to needles is already restricted. You have no problem with that. But denying people access to other people's poop chutes is a problem for you? Amazing.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-8733928277689834072012-05-19T07:20:26.872-06:002012-05-19T07:20:26.872-06:00Speedy, very good but first address the obvious is...Speedy, very good but first address the obvious issues with your assessment of the health impact of sodomy.jezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14865247084509280406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-12366231084430859572012-05-19T05:38:07.500-06:002012-05-19T05:38:07.500-06:00The proscriptions against sodomy were never aimed ...The proscriptions against sodomy were never aimed at punishing homosexuals. Quite the opposite.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.com