tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post6022739505900842483..comments2023-09-15T08:07:28.542-06:00Comments on Western Hero: Have Women Lost Their Civilizing Influence?Silverfiddlehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-13459723046331615812011-11-08T20:04:38.584-07:002011-11-08T20:04:38.584-07:00True, if 2 homos are allowed to marry each other, ...True, if 2 homos are allowed to marry each other, you can't deny 10 homos from marrying each other. That would just be mean. lolMathewKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385674205383405783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-37166897353409486762011-11-08T15:17:56.517-07:002011-11-08T15:17:56.517-07:00Ha! Ha! MK. You just gave me a new word Homolygamy...Ha! Ha! MK. You just gave me a new word <b>Homolygamy</b>. If we discourage gays from marrying that's exactly how they will live, since there won't be any advantage to living otherwise.<br /><br />As a libertarian I don't think we should "ban" ANY sort of human interrelationship, EXCEPT suicide clubs, murderers, vandals, thieves, swindlers, extortionists, and stalkers.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-59003126032047151062011-11-08T03:37:25.061-07:002011-11-08T03:37:25.061-07:00"Let’s face it, were it not for sex, men woul..."Let’s face it, were it not for sex, men would have no interest in women, and subsequently children."<br /><br />I don't think so, sex is such a small part of marriage.<br /><br />You are right in that women will lose their civilizing influence if they become more like men. They're also damaging themselves.<br /><br />It's a sad ending for them in the long run though, women are emotional and nurturing creatures and if they deny themselves a family to love and care for, what is there at the end of your days ultimately.<br /><br />I think that applies to men as well, are we going to sit around in our old age reminiscing about the farting competitions and drunken episodes [which apparently we can't remember] from back in the day. That'll be a pretty empty end i think.<br /><br />As for polygamy, well we can't really call for banning of that if we allow homo marriage. You either restrict it to one man and one woman or you don't at all.MathewKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385674205383405783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-77442160865218647962011-11-06T17:11:53.900-07:002011-11-06T17:11:53.900-07:00@FT,
No, this is not my blog, as well. This is K...@FT,<br /><br />No, this is not my blog, as well. This is Kurt's blog. I have my own to maintain and nurture.<br /><br />Your lengthy explanation was unnecessary, because my question was, at its root, purely rhetorical. :)<br /><br />See ya 'round, FT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-28836071537260340232011-11-06T10:28:36.792-07:002011-11-06T10:28:36.792-07:00ecc,
The rare and wonderful thing about Silver Fi...ecc,<br /><br />The rare and wonderful thing about Silver Fiddle is his generous spirit and genuine humility. He allows and encourages contributors to be whoever they really are, and makes no demands direct or implied that they march to the beat of <i>his</i> particular drum. <br /><br />Very frankly this is the only blog I have ever frequented where some form of pettifogging censorship and neurotic micro-management neither hampers anyone's creativity, nor attempts to cut anyone down to size. A rare example of the true libertarian spirit at work. Long may it wave!<br /><br />If he thinks your logic is flawed, your information untrue or that something you've said is asinine, he'll tell you, but never in a badgering, bullying, personally insulting tone. This place is not about his personal feelings versus the big bad world, thank God, it's about sharing differing perspectives on targeted issues in an open and honest search for truth. <br /><br />I believe he intends to use each daily article as a stimulating point of departure -- a source of inspiration -- never knowing quite where the discussion will go. Even better than that he never gets in a huff if he doesn't receive the kind of response he had hoped or expected to get.<br /><br />I'm not authorized to speak for SilverFiddle, ecc, but I think it may be safe to say that this is <i>your</i> blog as much as his. The way he has set it up ensures that it truly belongs to everyone who feels moved to contribute -- even those who are obviously here just to be contentious or obnoxious.<br /><br />He's given us a rare gift. I admit to taking full advantage of it whenever I feel I have something pertinent to add to the discussion. I am very grateful for the opportunity, believe me.<br /><br /><i>My name is FreeThinke, and I approve this message.</i> ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-32883950157396720362011-11-06T09:09:07.986-07:002011-11-06T09:09:07.986-07:00Is this FT's blog, or Kurt's? Just wonder...Is this FT's blog, or Kurt's? Just wondering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-60805499970507766782011-11-06T06:51:26.208-07:002011-11-06T06:51:26.208-07:00You are a veritable vault of poetry, FT.
Z: I ag...You are a veritable vault of poetry, FT.<br /><br />Z: I agree Z. We are animals, separated only by some higher reasoning skills instead of pure instinct. Yet many abandon the former to the latter.<br /><br />Society is a thin veneer.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-11688952972567616352011-11-06T01:24:27.827-07:002011-11-06T01:24:27.827-07:00I seem to be on a roll. No discussion of the meani...I seem to be on a roll. No discussion of the meaning of femininity, true love and devotion would be complete without this famous sonnet written by Elizabeth Barrett Browning to her husband Robert:<br /><br /><br /><b><i>How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.<br />I love thee to the depth and breadth and height<br />My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight<br />For the ends of Being and ideal Grace.<br />I love thee to the level of everyday's<br />Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.<br />I love thee freely, as men strive for Right;<br />I love thee purely, as they turn from Praise.<br />I love thee with a passion put to use<br />In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.<br />I love thee with a love I seemed to lose<br />With my lost saints, --- I love thee with the breath,<br />Smiles, tears, of all my life! --- and, if God choose,<br />I shall but love thee better after death</i></b>.<br /><br />~ Elizabeth Barrett Browning (1806-1861) <br /><br />That is, perhaps, the best known of a collection she called Sonnets from the Portuguese.<br /><br />We have so much to learn from the past, and too much we need to forget about the present.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-47549579538876795682011-11-06T01:15:39.547-07:002011-11-06T01:15:39.547-07:00Sorry! I neglected to sign that last post -- and a...Sorry! I neglected to sign that last post -- and also to tell you how remarkable it was that Robert Browning, one of the most masculine of men, wrote you and Art from a <i>woman's</i> point of view. <br /><br />Great poets can do things like that, because of their penetrating insight and superior understanding of human nature from a cosmic perspetive.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-63483095374986063712011-11-06T01:05:30.149-07:002011-11-06T01:05:30.149-07:00"The saddest words from tongue or pen
Is the ...<i>"The saddest words from tongue or pen<br />Is the wistful phrase, "It might have been."</i><br /><br />IF you're really interested in gaining greater insight into the ever-perplexing subject of relations between the sexes, don't miss Robert Browning's Youth and Art. It's too much to post here, but charming, funny, and very entertaining -- before it breaks your heart -- <i>if you have one</i>:<br /><br /><br />http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173036<br /><br /><br />If this link does not work for you, just type Youth and Art, Robert Browning into Google, and it will come right up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-12054262508268329712011-11-06T01:52:59.358-06:002011-11-06T01:52:59.358-06:00A comment on latter day prudishness and hypocrisy ...A comment on latter day prudishness and hypocrisy inspired by Robert Frost's Provide:<br /><br /><br /><b><i>An Awful Truth <br /><br />Do most old women stop enjoying sex<br />Once the saggy baggy phase sets in?<br />Could any potent male regard these wrecks<br />As outlets for the joys of carnal sin?<br /><br />Lechery in randy, aging goats<br />Arises at the thought of flesh still fresh ––<br />Softly rounded curves and slim white throats<br />No too long departed from the creche.<br /><br />Ironic that old pussies cracked and wizened<br />Still dream of ardent service from Fair Youth,<br />But no matter how these crones appear bedizened<br />‘Tis just their cash that lures, and that’s the truth.<br /><br />The resource that best sustains us when we’re old<br />Is found in vaults replete with jewels and gold.</i></b><br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-42238586532931905992011-11-06T01:39:33.248-06:002011-11-06T01:39:33.248-06:00Now here is Maxine Kumin, a contemporary American ...Now here is Maxine Kumin, a contemporary American poet who is still very much alive, to speculate on what might have happened to Romeo and Juliet had not tragedy occurred. Would Shakespeare be amused? Who knows? <br /><br /><i>Purgatory<br /><br />And suppose the darlings get to Mantua, <br />suppose they cheat the crypt, what next? Begin <br />with him, unshaven. Though not, I grant you, a <br />displeasing cockerel, there's egg yolk on his chin. <br /><br />His seedy robe's aflap, he's got the rheum. <br />Poor dear, the cooking lard has smoked her eye. <br />Another Montague is in the womb <br />although the first babe's bottom's not yet dry. <br /><br />She scrolls a weekly letter to her Nurse <br />who dares to send a smock through Balthasar, <br />and once a month, his father posts a purse. <br />News from Verona? Always news of war. <br /><br />Such sour years it takes to right this wrong! <br />The fifth act runs unconscionably long.</i><br /><br />~ Maxine Kumin<br /><br />Submitted by FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-18377936809360899992011-11-06T01:32:38.274-06:002011-11-06T01:32:38.274-06:00And now let Dorothy Parker weigh in. She was in he...And now let Dorothy Parker weigh in. She was in her heyday in the 1920's and 30's. Was she a woman ahead of her time, or perhaps one of few who were honest?<br /><br /><b>The Little Old Lady in Lavender Silk<br /> <br /> I was seventy-seven, come August,<br />I shall shortly be losing my bloom;<br />I've experienced zephyr and raw gust<br />And (symbolical) flood and simoom.<br /><br />When you come to this time of abatement,<br />To this passing from Summer to Fall,<br />It is manners to issue a statement<br />As to what you got out of it all.<br /><br />So I'll say, though reflection unnerves me<br />And pronouncements I dodge as I can,<br />That I think (if my memory serves me)<br />There was nothing more fun than a man!<br /><br />In my youth, when the crescent was too wan<br />To embarrass with beams from above,<br />By the aid of some local Don Juan<br />I fell into the habit of love.<br /><br />And I learned how to kiss and be merry- an<br />Education left better unsung.<br />My neglect of the waters Pierian<br />Was a scandal, when Grandma was young.<br /><br />Though the shabby unbalanced the splendid,<br />And the bitter outmeasured the sweet,<br />I should certainly do as I then did,<br />Were I given the chance to repeat.<br /><br />For contrition is hollow and wraithful,<br />And regret is no part of my plan,<br />And I think (if my memory's faithful)<br />There was nothing more fun than a man!</b> <br /><br />~ Dorothy Parker (1893-1967)<br /><br />~ Submitted by FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-34277475416731790952011-11-06T00:01:45.126-06:002011-11-06T00:01:45.126-06:00Leticia, I've seen emails of pictures where a ...Leticia, I've seen emails of pictures where a few very pretty coeds have stood in front of a hundred frat guys bearing their breasts with bigger smiles on their faces than the guys wear (boy, when I was in high school, I assure you the GUYS would have had way bigger smiles than the girls in that situation!!!) and I've thought "Man, a young girl would have had to sleep with a LOT of guys to feel no compunction or shyness about being topless in front of that many young guys".........<br />it's tough to consider how their psyches are played with for buying into the hype of "Whatever and turns you on whenever.."......there's a thin line between us and dogs and cats and the line seems to be thinning waaay too much for a healthy society that I believe should put men and women over the animal kingdom.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-90128649391844006992011-11-05T16:28:52.364-06:002011-11-05T16:28:52.364-06:00MORE FOOD FOR THOUGHT:
Is Turnabout Fair Play?
...MORE FOOD FOR THOUGHT:<br /><br /><br /><b><i>Is Turnabout Fair Play?<br /><br />Was there ever a society<br />In all of human history<br />Where women were allowed to be<br />Free in promiscuity,<br />And a wife to many men?<br /><br />Imagine then what life would be<br />If men were ignominiously<br />Kept in rude captivity in stud farms<br />Guarded by Lesbianic gendarmes<br />Like bulls held in a pen!<br /><br />Is turnabout fair play,<br />Or just one more misguided way<br />Of lousing up the day<br />By insisting things be equal?<br /><br />God only knows for sure,<br />So we must then endure<br />Whatever status quo<br />Saddles us with woe,<br />Until He writes the sequel!</i></b><br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-73497899450384650042011-11-05T12:46:18.505-06:002011-11-05T12:46:18.505-06:00Women and men who wait for the marriage bed are a ...Women and men who wait for the marriage bed are a dying breed, and I find that quite disheartening. There is something very precious about waiting for marriage. My opinion.<br /><br />There was a time in history that it was considered "risque" or inappropriate for a woman even to show her ankle. Those days are long past and gone, but it would be nice if women would show some restraint in exposing every possible angle of their bodies to the world.<br /><br />Great post, very thought provoking.Trekkie4Everhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03226981394122557804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-76496035251955653232011-11-05T12:41:50.761-06:002011-11-05T12:41:50.761-06:00JMJ< I think you make a good point.
I do have t...JMJ< I think you make a good point.<br />I do have to add, though, that I have a sister who married a man very financially well off and she doesn't work and never has....other than raising 3 children and all that entails, and making a husband very very happy.<br />I tell you this only because in the early days of her marriage, they meet new couples and it was the men who'd say "You don't WORK?" as if it was a big problem. For a few years, she felt a little embarrassed and awkward when they'd say that, but she's matured and has stood strong in her decision and has three amazing kids (the eldest is 29 now to show you the years I'm talking about here) to show for it in a world of some pretty darned screwed up kids. <br /><br />SO, yes, men need to let women make ANY choice they make. <br />Maybe younger men are doing better at that by now.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-52297986737625625222011-11-05T11:26:06.104-06:002011-11-05T11:26:06.104-06:00A Theory:
Polygamy might be very good for women, ...A Theory:<br /><br />Polygamy might be very good for women, because it gives them frequent respites from man's insatiable lust.<br /><br />I'll bet women get fewer headaches in polygamous societies.<br /><br />... Just a thought. ;-)<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-77499780517106703112011-11-05T11:18:22.274-06:002011-11-05T11:18:22.274-06:00Sorry, Mr. Nash!
Poetry and blog software are to...Sorry, Mr. Nash! <br /><br /><i>Poetry and blog software are too often incompatible<br />Because such software is not properly formatable.<br /><br />Attempts to share can be lamentable<br />Because blogware is not indentable.</i><br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-73257450005840266852011-11-05T11:16:16.031-06:002011-11-05T11:16:16.031-06:00I enjoy posting stuff like this if for no other re...I enjoy posting stuff like this if for no other reason than to see the usually loquacious lefties turn into Furrow-browed plonkers, retreating back into their politically correct indoctrinations.<br /><br />This is not about "letting women be what they want to be" or going back or whatever.<br /><br />It's a question, and the feminist-indoctrinated left gets a brain freeze...Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-81590670287227902752011-11-05T11:07:03.284-06:002011-11-05T11:07:03.284-06:00I Do, I Will, I Have
How wise I am to have instr...I Do, I Will, I Have <br /><br />How wise I am to have instructed the butler to instruct the first footman<br /> ........ to instruct the second footman to instruct the doorman to order my <br /> ........ carriage; I am about to volunteer a definition<br /> of marriage. <br /><br />Just as I know that there are two Hagens, Walter and Copen*, <br /> I know that marriage is a legal and religious alliance entered into by a<br /> ........ man who can't sleep with the window shut and a woman who can't<br /> ........ sleep with the window open.<br /> <br />Moreover, just as I am unsure of the difference between flora and fauna<br /> ........ and flotsam and jetsam, <br /> I am quite sure that marriage is the alliance of two people one of whom<br /> ........ never remembers birthdays and the other never forgetsam,<br /> <br />And he refuses to believe there is a leak in the water pipe or the gas pipe <br /> ........ and she is convinced she is about to asphyxiate or drown, <br />And she says Quick get up and get my hairbrushes off the windowsill, <br /> ........ it's raining in, and he replies Oh they're all right, it's only raining <br /> ........ straight down.<br /> <br />That is why marriage is so much more interesting than divorce, Because it's the only known example of the happy meeting of the <br /> ........ immovable object and the irresistible force. <br /><br />So I hope husbands and wives will continue to debate and combat over<br /> ........ everything debatable and combatable, <br /> Because I believe a little incompatibility is the spice of life, particulary if<br /> ........ he has income and she is pattable.<br /><br />~ Ogden Nash (1902-1971)<br />_________________________<br />* Walter Hagen was golf's first superstar during the 1920's and 30's. Copen Hagen? The capital of Denmark.<br /><br />Submitted by FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-42174505708059388532011-11-05T10:40:40.002-06:002011-11-05T10:40:40.002-06:00American poet Emily Dickinson (1830-1886) never ma...American poet Emily Dickinson (1830-1886) never married, but often wished she had. Here her vivid imagination provides an entirely different perspective on relations between the sexes:<br /><br /><i>I'm "wife" -- I've finished that --<br />That other state --<br />I'm Czar -- I'm "Woman" now --<br />It's safer so --<br /><br />How odd the Girl's life looks<br />Behind this soft Eclipse --<br />I think that Earth feels so<br />To folks in Heaven -- now --<br /><br />This being comfort -- then<br />That other kind -- was pain --<br />But why compare?<br />I'm "Wife"! Stop there!</i><br /><br /><br />Submitted by FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-9895591398994433822011-11-05T10:23:39.611-06:002011-11-05T10:23:39.611-06:00A HYMN TO HIM (My Fair Lady)
What in all of heav...A HYMN TO HIM (My Fair Lady)<br /><br /><br /><i>What in all of heaven could've prompted her to go, <br />After such a triumph as the ball? <br />What could've depressed her; <br />What could've possessed her? <br />I cannot understand the wretch at all. <br /><br /><br />Women are irrational, that's all there is to that! <br />There heads are full of cotton, hay, and rags! <br />They're nothing but exasperating, irritating,<br />vacillating, calculating, agitating, <br />Maddening and infuriating hags! <br /><br /><br /><b>Why can't a woman be more like a man? <br />Men are so honest, so thoroughly square; <br />Eternally noble, historic'ly fair; <br />Who, when you win, will always give your back a pat. <br />Well, why can't a woman be like that? <br />Why does ev'ryone do what the others do? <br />Can't a woman learn to use her head? <br />Why do they do ev'rything their mothers do? <br />Why don't they grow up- well, like their father instead? <br />Why can't a woman take after a man? <br />Men are so pleasant, so easy to please; <br />Whenever you are with them, you're always at ease</b>. <br /><br /><br />Would you be slighted if I didn't speak for hours? <br /><br />Of course not! <br /><br />Would you be livid if I had a drink or two? <br /><br />Nonsense! <br /><br />Would you be wounded if I never sent you flowers? <br /><br />Never! <br /><br />Well, why can't a woman be like you? <br /><br /><br />One man in a million may shout a bit. <br />Now and then there's one with slight defects; <br />One, perhaps, whose truthfulness you doubt a bit. <br />But by and large we are a marvelous sex! <br />Why can't a woman take after like a man? <br />Cause men are so friendly, good natured and kind. <br />A better companion you never will find.<br /><br /><br />If I were hours late for dinner, would you bellow? <br /><br />Of course not! <br /><br />If I forgot your silly birthday, would you fuss? <br /><br />Nonsense!<br /><br />Would you complain if I took out another fellow?<br /><br />Never!<br /><br />Well, why can't a woman be like us? <br /><br /><br />Mrs. Pearce, you're a woman ... <br /><b>Why can't a woman be more like a man? <br />Men are so decent, such regular chaps. <br />Ready to help you through any mishaps. <br />Ready to buck you up whenever you are glum. <br />Why can't a woman be a chum? <br />Why is thinking something women never do? <br />Why is logic never even tried? <br />Straight'ning up their hair is all they ever do. <br />Why don't they straighten up the mess that's inside? <br />Why can't a woman behave like a man? <br />If I was a woman who'd been to a ball, <br />Been hailed as a princess by one and by all; <br />Would I start weeping like a bathtub overflowing? <br />And carry on as if my home were in a tree? <br />Would I run off and never tell me where I'm going? <br />Why can't a woman be like me?</b></i><br /><br />~ Alan Jay Lerner (with a just little bit of help from George Bernard-Shaw)<br /><br />~ Submitted by FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-35828081495616649932011-11-05T10:02:26.996-06:002011-11-05T10:02:26.996-06:00Let women be who they want to be. If some men don...Let women be who they want to be. If some men don't like it, well... whatever. It's not up to us - or at least it shouldn't be. If we want women to be what we want them to be, then we should try to be what they want us to be. The subjective upsides and downsides to modern womanhood are not greater or lesser than the modern upsides and downsides of modern manhood.<br /><br />Face it. Change is a fact of the universe. Adapt or be miserable.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7674333464171899932.post-64024518299383555682011-11-05T09:34:12.531-06:002011-11-05T09:34:12.531-06:00SF....I was with you until the second sentence :-)...SF....I was with you until the second sentence :-) But, it IS hilariously said!<br /><br />ecc, I'm glad you "opined" but it hit me as sad that you'll literally not go into a friend's home in that situation. Still, I DO understand it; one mustn't put oneself in a place in which havoc and/or rumor could occur.<br />But, I do draw a line...my pastor's a lot younger than I am and we have lunched in a restaurant a couple of times, just the 2 of us. An acquaintance of mine was rather shocked that we had lunch just the two of us. I found that REALLY odd, (if not a little flattering!!)...in public, younger, etc., so I guess you never know what people will think.<br />For the record, he did NOT ask me to be his second wife :-)Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.com