Sir Charles, OM, QC, OFM, Knight of the Queen's Girdle and all that, (Peace Be upon Him), charges to the rescue any time someone casts aspersions upon the Religion of Peace. (See this thread at Leticia's)
He and fellow Defenders of the Faith have excuses from now to doomsday explaining away the horrors that Islam has spawned:
It's not the religion but the national culture...
... religious conservatism...
... women like being swaddled head to toe when it's 120 degrees outside...
... and they don't like driving anyway...
... but it's only a small stick ....
OK, I added the last three, but I have heard variations of them at other forums...
The Christmas day killing in Texas where a man gunned down his entire family as they were gathered around the Christmas tree spurred my fellow Right Blogistanis to yet another gang attack on Islam, but it actually caused me to back up and reconsider. Mr. Yazdanpanah was obviously mentally distraught and emotionally anguished due to bankruptcy, family problems and a marriage breakup.
The Yazdanpanah's were not Muslim Fundamentalists
This is a man who reportedly enjoyed happy hour cocktails with men and women after work. Look at family pictures and how the women dress. This is not a fundamentalist family. They were celebrating Christmas (albeit secularly), with a Christmas tree for Pete's sake! Religion probably did not motivate him. But did his native culture? And what shaped that culture? He's Iranian, so I'm waiting for an apologist to suggest Zoroastrianism...
Every time a Muslim man decapitates someone or kills his (always female) family members, a "Religion vs. Culture" argument breaks out. It's a silly argument over a false choice. Religion and Culture, you can't have one without the other. Cultures are informed by their dominant religions, and a religion accepts what is not objectionable from the surrounding culture.
Grand Ayatollah Imam Shirazi explains it better than I ever could:
So, we have some evidence that prosperity tamps down a religion's most repugnant rituals, and we find that some practices are shared among various religions. Neither observation answers the culture or religion question definitively, and that's because the two are inextricably entwined.
All I can offer in response is a different attempt at disaggregation. What about those non-Muslims living in Muslim-dominated cultures?
* Since Pakistan is proud home to over 600 honor killings annually, I'd like to see the Christian/Muslim breakdown of the statistics. Again, some googling will reveal it is approximately, oh... 100% Muslim and 0% Christian, unless it is a Christian who is on the receiving end of an angry wielder of the Flaming Sword of God.
An additional comparison that would be interesting would be the annual number of per capita Old Testament-style punishments meted out in Israel over the past decade compared to surrounding countries.
So is it really the culture?
So in the case of Islamic religion and its followers, Islam does influence the culture, but culture does not generate the religion; for all the teachings of Islam are generated or inspired by none other than the divine entity. Inherently every aspect of the teachings of Islam is based on a reason and wisdom for the good of mankind - [whether or not the reason happens to be known to him.]
On the other hand if a practice or a particular aspect of culture does not contradict the system that is brought for the good of mankind, i.e. it does not contradict the teachings of Islam, or it is good for mankind, then it is accepted or endorsed by the Islamic religion, since anything which is considered good or is not considered harmful for mankind is declared permissible and therefore accepted and endorsed by Islam. And this is the kind of relationship Islam harbours for faith and culture. (Imam Shirazi)
So why are some practices absolutely prohibited (drinking), while female genital mutilation is AOK? These are religious judgement passed on cultural practices.
Ducky, Jack and other ably proffer evidence to bolster the "culture, not religion" argument. Places like the United Arab Emirates, though ruled by Sharia, are relatively free from stonings and head chopping. The Emirates are very rich, and they bribe jihadis to leave them alone, and they deal harshly with public fundamentalist outbursts. Ducky has pointed out that various religions in Africa perform female genital mutilation, and the practice pre-dates Islam.
So, we have some evidence that prosperity tamps down a religion's most repugnant rituals, and we find that some practices are shared among various religions. Neither observation answers the culture or religion question definitively, and that's because the two are inextricably entwined.
All I can offer in response is a different attempt at disaggregation. What about those non-Muslims living in Muslim-dominated cultures?
* Number of bombings carried out by Christians compared to Muslim-inspired explosions. A quick glance at the news or some googling will reveal Islam beating Christianity 10-1, or greater.
* Since Pakistan is proud home to over 600 honor killings annually, I'd like to see the Christian/Muslim breakdown of the statistics. Again, some googling will reveal it is approximately, oh... 100% Muslim and 0% Christian, unless it is a Christian who is on the receiving end of an angry wielder of the Flaming Sword of God.
An additional comparison that would be interesting would be the annual number of per capita Old Testament-style punishments meted out in Israel over the past decade compared to surrounding countries.
So is it really the culture?
Even an intellectually dishonest redefinition of honor killing (carried out by apologist feminists, no less), cannot snatch first prize in body count from Islam's bloody grasp. They still outnumber even Catholic Latin American husbands who kill their wives in a fit of jealous rage.
So, I don't condemn Islam or its practitioners; I simply view it with eyes wide open. I appreciate the contribution my fellow Americans of the Islamic faith make to this nation in the fields of industry, medicine, the arts, and defense. I thank God we are spared the darker aspects of their faith here in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.
Maybe culture and national character have something to do with it after all...
Daily Mail
WFAA.com
PEW Survey - Muslim Attitudes
Imam Shirazi - Teachings of Islam
So, I don't condemn Islam or its practitioners; I simply view it with eyes wide open. I appreciate the contribution my fellow Americans of the Islamic faith make to this nation in the fields of industry, medicine, the arts, and defense. I thank God we are spared the darker aspects of their faith here in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.
Maybe culture and national character have something to do with it after all...
Daily Mail
WFAA.com
PEW Survey - Muslim Attitudes
Imam Shirazi - Teachings of Islam