Crime Statistics

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The first question you need to ask is why did the government stop publishing statistics on interracial crime in 2008.

The second question you need to ask is why doesn't the government publish crime statistics correlated to both race and economic factors.

Our government does a horrible job of publishing accurate and meaningful crime statistics.

Examining data from 2012-2013 the Manhattan Institute derived the following statistics:

Violent Crime Victims:

White 42.9, Black 22.4, Hispanic 14.8, Other 12.1, Unk. 7.8

Violent Crime Perpetrators:
 
In 56% of the cases Whites were the victims of other Whites.
In only 13.7% were Whites the victims of Blacks and in 11.9% were they the victims of Hispanics.

In 62.2% of the cases Blacks were the victims of other Blacks. In only 10.4% were they the victims of Whites and in 4.7% were they the victims of Hispanics.

In 38.8% of the cases Hispanics were the victims of Hispanics.  In only 21.7% were they the victims of Whites and in 21.2% were they the victims of Blacks.

Murder

In 2013 there were 5680 murders in the US according to the FBI

3005 victims were White, 2491 victims were Black, and 227 were other or of an unknown race.

83.5% of White homicides were committed by other Whites, only 13.6% were committed by Blacks.

90% of Black homicides were committed by other Blacks, only 7.5% were committed by Whites.

For what it is worth 43.6% of Other/Unknown homicides were committed by Other/Unknowns, while only 25% were committed by Whites and 19.3% were committed by Blacks.

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Between 2003 and 2013 565 Police Officers were "feloniously killed" according to FBI statistics.

51.5% of the Officers were killed by White/Hispanic offenders, 43% were killed by Black offenders.  97.5% of the offenders were male. Only 1.4% of the offenders were Asian/Pacific while in 2010 they were roughly 5% of the population.

Since the FBI lumps Whites and Hispanics into the same category:

77% of the US population is White/Hispanic

13.2% of the US population is Black

In 2015 990 people were shot by police officers.

80% of those shot had a deadly weapon

5.5% of those shot were presumably using a vehicle as a deadly weapon

3.5% of those shot had a toy gun 

9.4% of those shot were unarmed

2.7% of the shooting circumstances were termed "unknown".

Of those shot 67% were White/Hispanic, 26% were black.

Go back to that original figure relating to police officers killed.  43% of police officers killed in felonious assault were killed by Blacks. Police officers kill Blacks at a rate twice as high as their proportion of the population but Blacks kill police officers at a rate three times as high.

If you are a police officer your chances of getting killed by a White or Black offender are almost equal despite the differences in demographics.  

“Adjusted for the homicide rate, whites are 1.7 times more likely than blacks die at the hands of police,” he said. “Adjusted for the racial disparity at which police are feloniously killed, whites are 1.3 times more likely than blacks to die at the hands of police.” Moskos-Wash Times

What remains a gaping hole in all of this are the socioeconomic factors, what do the numbers look like when adjusted to income bracket and race?

The Mountaintop

Photo: Bob Jagendorf

Can a white man play Martin Luther King?

There has been some controversy surrounding an Ohio University production of Katori Hall's play The Mountaintop and Michael Oatman's casting of a white actor in the role of MLK, actually he dual cast the role using both a black and a white actor.

The play is set in its entirety in room 306 of the Lorraine Motel on the last day in the life of Martin Luther King.

The playwright called the decision "disrespectful".

Katori Hall's reaction. 

The Washington Post asked "As actors of color increasingly play traditionally white roles, breaking Broadway’s color barriers, should the opposite be true as well? Should a white man be allowed to play a black historical figure as important as Martin Luther King?" 

This comes on the heels Lin-Manual Miranda's successful play Hamilton and it's black and Hispanic cast of America's founding fathers. NYT Review

Is one acceptable and the other not?  Are there limits and should there be limits on the casting of roles based on race?  

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Subsequent to my writing this post a performance of Jesus in India has been cancelled after demands by the playwright citing the "ethnic composition of the cast", the cast is white.  The playwright demanded that the university recast the play using an Asian cast, unfortunately Clarion University doesn't have a large Asian student population (less than 1% of the student population), and no Asians auditioned for the play.  The playwright, Lloyd Suh a Korean-American, said that "Clarion was distorting and disrespecting his work and, in doing so, perpetuating hostility against nonwhite performers."

The school had paid Lloyd Suh $500 for the rights to put on the play, a sum that will be refunded, but the school is also out $15,000 in pre-production costs. I certainly hope that the university will sue to recoup those costs, but I doubt it.

Imagine the reaction if a white playwright revoked performance rights for a mixed-race cast claiming that the play was written for white people. 

Another Disparate Impact

Pie Chart: ZnU

Entry to NYC's elite schools are determined solely by test scores, 5,103 students out of >70,000 eight graders were offered positions at those schools, the racial breakdown of those admitted?

Black: 5%
Hispanic: 7%
White: 28%
Asian: 52%

In the city as a whole the racial breakdown is:

White: 44%
Black: 25.5%
Asian: 15%
Hispanic: 41%*

*Note that the Census numbers don't add up to 100 because Hispanic is not a race and overlaps other categories. 

In the NY City School System the student breakdown is:

White: 16%
Black: 28%
Asian: 15%
Hispanic: 41%

At Stuyvesant High School only 10 of the 953 spots were earned by blacks.  This was documented in an article in the NY Times "Lack of Diversity Persists in Admissions to New York City's Elite High Schools"

"The schools should more closely resemble the population of the city" ~ Mayor Bill DeBlasio

"It's critical that our city's specialized high schools reflect the diversity of our city" ~ Chancellor Carmen Farina

WHY?

Should not our High Schools, Colleges, and Universities populations reflect those with the most aptitude?  Should an Asian kid be discriminated against to allow a Black kid to attend?   

Read More:
Manhattan Contrarian
New York Times  

A Gentle Answer Turneth Away Wrath

The most interesting and intelligent thread of the Year

I have read threads that are more interesting, usually in a weird or twisted way; and there are threads that contain conversation more intelligent than this one. But this thread over at Z's excellent blog, GeeeeeZ!, is an effective combination of the two, and it is a testament to Z’s always excellent topic selection and commentary as well as her patience.

What is it about Ron Paul that makes the crazy train go off the rails?

It started out on the subject of Ron Paul, and slowly degenerated into an angry, snarky shouting match, with Z having to step in to bank the fiery passions. She’s quite a moderator as well as a gracious host, proving true the passage from Proverbs about a gentle answer turning away wrath.

I could see that the thread was causing our beloved Z much anguish, but I’ve got to congratulate her for stimulating such a conversation. Beamish can be insulting, but he’s also very logical and he brings the supporting info for his arguments (which I suspect is what steams his rivals more than the insults.) I tangled with him once, but I’ve got to give the man credit. He knows how to argue his point, and other than the barbed ad-hominem, I was with him all the way on his anti-Ron Paul comments. 

Anyway, Beamish ended up insulting everyone, to the point of driving some commenters away. After some behind the scenes e-mailing between Z and some commenters, Z elicited an apology from him for turning the thread into a barroom brawl, which is no small feat. He sincerely apologized to Z without conceding the point of his argument.

A rare conversation on race that makes sense

The best part of the thread came at the end, when a liberal black man named Net Observer stepped in. I apologize for the labels. I use them only to provide a frame of reference. Mere shorthand tags do not do justice to this wise man, and although a Democrat, he says he is personally conservative, and I believe him. Go read his comments and it will all make sense. 

He said some pretty profound things about race in this country. I had heard the different pieces of his comments from various different people, but he synthesized them and stated them quite eloquently, readily offering that the thoughts were not wholly his own. He displayed a rare quality of being able to put oneself outside the debate, dispassionately analyze it, and then honestly put it back together. He is the rare person who can really see both sides, and articulate it. Go down towards the end of the thread and check out the dialog between him and Kid (a wise man himself). They are decidedly not the cowards that Eric Holder referred to.

Net Observer points out that it is not damning to incidentally share some non-racist views with people who are racist:

Whenever I talk about conservatives sharing common ground with white racialists on various race-based issues, you and other decent conservatives take strong offense. For the record, I don't blame you for taking offense. Frankly, I like the fact that you DO, because it so underlines your seriousness about the ugliness of racial prejudice.

To whites who ask why President Obama, or responsible black men like himself do not straighten out the gangbanger black youth, Net Observer says…

What if said to you, "Z, what are YOU and the other good conservatives doing about those white racialists you share common ground with? Why don't you guys speak out against it more?"

If I did that, ultimately, I think I would be placing an unfair burden on you. Because pragmatically, there's not a whole lot you can do about some independent white racialists having a few conservative opinions. Bottom line, despite the similarities, you have no real connection to those guys.

And like most blacks, I don't have any real connection to those lawless, prison-bound idiots whose skin looks like mine.

He nails the issue here, but does not damn white people with his comments; he is just describing what he sees and hears. It is an excellent explanation...

But the conflicts between blacks and conservatives are mostly based around not the basic facts, but a lack of trust. African-Americans are solid Democrats; which means they lean left. Conservatives don't trust the left.

Conversely, conservatives, unfortunately, share common ground with racialists and racists on issues like immigration, profiling, etc. So, from the point of view of a left-leaning black guy, conservatives look kinda racist.

There are some lessons in all of this... 

First, Z did not respond in kind, but kept her head and calmed things down without resorting to wielding a censorious meat ax. Beamish, although enjoying an extraordinary gift for debating and being in possession of the facts, turns people off with his pin-prickish manner. Finally, a black, liberal Obama voter shows up and displays a cultural insight, eloquence and understanding that are so rare nowadays, and conservatives warm to him.

It was an excellent dialog between Net Observer and Kid, full of Socratic intelligence, candor and goodwill, and Z is to be congratulated for hosting such a forum, even if it does at times cause her to become distraught.

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