Monday, December 17, 2012

Waiting for Marco

I'll see your African American and raise you a Hispanic

Republicans who criticize Barack Obama's cult of personality are in danger of making the same mistake with Marco Rubio. Don’t get me wrong. By all accounts, he’s a wonderful and intelligent man, and could perhaps make a good president. We don’t know enough about him or his positions yet.

White:  The New Black

When did old and white and male become pejoratives? And why? Why must someone be female, gay, ethnic or non-white to generate any buzz or be considered legitimate? Al Gore, Bill Clinton and The Rolling Stones are all old white men. Have we all lost our minds? Are we in the grip of a collective psychosis? I think so.

White men have dominated Western Civilization for two millennia. I understand the exuberance of seeing others rise to enjoy their God-given equality. I rejoice in it myself and view it as another self-correcting achievement of Western Civilization. But this cultural libertinism smacks of the French Revolution and revenge rather than a celebration of equality. We revel in egalite’ while turning our liberte’ over to the government, and saying to hell with fraternite’. We are twisted.

What Would Dr King Do?

Also, this GOP scramble for higher melanin content is unseemly and transparent, and I say that as I tell you Bobby Jindal is my early favorite for 2016. Not because he’s got that exciting ethnic vibe (Indians aren’t exciting anyway. Too nerdy, family-oriented and underrepresented in the all-important popular culture), but because he’s an extremely intelligent man who has a proven-track record.

So, my fellow conservatives, if you’re going to gush all over Marco Rubio, bring the facts and qualifications, or be prepared to be laughed at by those of us tired of hero worship politics. If your only reason for voting for him is that he is Hispanic, you’re no better than the Obama worshipers you've been vilifying these past years.


Ducky's here said...

When did old and white and male become pejoratives? And why?

It became pejorative when the Republican party started to try to hide it's main motive -- to get back to the days of white male privilege.

Every time the phrase, "traditional values" is used we know what you mean and a light weight like Rubio isn't going to change that.

KP said...

@Ducky "Every time the phrase, "traditional values" is used we know what you mean .. (white male privilege)."


I have never used the term traditional values in conversation or in writing. But when I hear it I don't think "race or power". I think of parents that discuss issues and eat meals with their children if they are home. I think law abiding, pride in neighborhoods, watching out for one another and some form of spituality when it comes to right and wrong. It might be Ozzie and Harriet or The Cosbys or Modern Family. But it's not race.

I am going to cut you some slack. You usually stay up late. You are either still up or got up too early :-)

FreeThinke said...

Every word you wrote for today is true enough, Kurt, but there's nothing you or I could hope to do about it. "No one can stop an idea whose time has come" -- especially if it's a really rotten idea with cheap meretricious appeal that has the power to sway the masses.

This is not to imply that Marco Rubio is "rotten." As far as I can tell he's a decent, sweet-natured individual. a good father, a faithful husband and a great credit to his parents who came here as poor, hardworking immigrants. Rubio was not born to privilege, and he has "made something of himself."

What that something is -- or is apt to become once the "handlers" -- the image-makers, the myth-makers, the political hypsters, and the ever hateful jackals that comprise the enemedia get through with him -- I wouldn't dare presume to say, but I have a sneaking suspicion that whatever it turns out to be it won't be what this nation needs.

The problem, of course, is that the last thing people of this nation WANT is what they NEED.

And hasn't that always been the case in every society throughout history everywhere?

That is why I most fervently do NOT believe in "democracy."

The masses are asses and cannot be trusted to govern themselves. The last election proved that conclusively.

"The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness . . . This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs. When he first appears, he is a Protector. . . In the early days of his power he is full of smiles. . . When the tyrant has disposed of foreign enemies . . . and there is nothing to fear from them, then he is always stirring up some war or other in order that the people may require a leader. . . Has he not also another object . . . that they may be impoverished by taxes and thus compelled to devote themselves to their daily wants and [be] therefore less likely to conspire against him?"

~ Plato (427-347 B. C.)

An' ain' DAT de troof?

~ FreeThinke

Anonymous said...

In my opinion, the GOP needs to decide if they are more interested in saving America or winning elections. They would appear to be bad at both.

Bunkerville said...

Apparently tea party conservatives we elected lost their courage. If we cannot hold these folks to maintaing an ethical commitment on the principles they were elected for, it is grime indeed.

Finntann said...

Tea Party?

Have you been able to hold any of the people elected to an ethical commitment?

FreeThinke said...

Let's face facts:


The political process by its very nature is a CORRUPTIVE process.

Also the notion put forth by the enemedia that the private and personal lives of public figures must be perfectly congruent with their public persona is not only foolishly naive -- it's DANGEROUS.

What we do to our politicians is what Britain has done to her Royal Family. We have turned them into objects of ridicule, derision and a focal point for all the ill will in the nation.

In persistently treating our leaders like Court Jesters, we have managed very neatly to trivialize ourselves and debase our culture.

We no longer think of our lives as having any purpose higher than a feckless, fruitless, endless search for Self-Gratification.

Our culture is not only feral, it's INFANTILE.

That is why we chose to elect "Santa Claus" to the highest office in the land. Only THIS Santa AIN'T no SAINT.

I've often wondered if there were anything to SANTA's being an anagram of SATAN, haven't you?

Always On Watch said...

I'll see your African American and raise you a Hispanic

Apparently, the GOP has devolved into the racial quota system.

Unknown said...

AHH, have some of us fallen in to the Liberals bible of Saul Alinsky?
Please, I know of no conservative who puts anyone on a pedestal based on the color of ones skin or ethnicity.
Case in point "the Republican party started to try to hide it's main motive -- to get back to the days of white male privilege.
Every time the phrase, "traditional values" is used we know what you mean"

SA- "The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength."

Stay focused!

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

As we enter into the sphere of brown-skin and vagina privilege, we should all tip our hats to our progressive friends and tell them, "thanks for ALL the progress!"

Ducky's here said...

AHH, have some of us fallen in to the Liberals bible of Saul Alinsky?

Unlike the fringe right, some of us have actually read Alinsky.

His methods are universally applicable and terrific practitioners are Pat Buchanan and his horse Babe.

-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jew said...

Ducky's right... assholery IS universally applicable. And the result of it being universally applied, is a universe filled with assholes.

Thanks, Saul...

FreeThinke said...

Republicans really are The STUPID Party, just as Democrats really are THE EVIL Party.

The truth no one wants to acknowledge is tat they really are Two Sides of the SAME Coin.

And it's a COUNTERFEIT coin made of BASE Metal -- not gold or silver.

We've been HAD. If anything is ever to change for the better, we must find the kind of courage and determination demonstrated by our Founders once gain and stage The SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION.

It's Liberty v. Death once again.

Liberty is the ONLY thing worthy dying for.

~ FreeThinke

FreeThinke said...

"What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

Jersey McJones said...

"When did old and white and male become pejoratives?"

When they started complaining about it. ;)

"...I say that as I tell you Bobby Jindal is my early favorite for 2016. ...because he’s an extremely intelligent man who has a proven-track record."


Ya' know, the problems you conservatives have with opening your tent to minorities, women, and the young, is your utterly stuttering and uncomfortable speak about them.

Look at Gov. Haley's pick to replace Jim DeMint. Tim Scott is a loony. The GOP is trotting out the candidate, patting themselves on the back for his blackness, who is utterly antithetical to the sorts of people minority voters want to see in office.

It reminds me of that old answer to the question, "What, are you a racist or something?," that goes, "Hey, I have several black friends!," referring to their landscaper, a neighbor they talk to once in a while, and a friendly clerk at the grocery store who likes to talk football.

I grew up in a mixed-race world, knowing very well many people from all over the world, and every sort of heritage. It's not old white men that are the problem, it's old white angry men who resent the world I come from - a huge chunk of America.


Silverfiddle said...

Yeah, Jersey, too late, some other loony liberal already beat you to it and informed us all that Tim Scott is not a "real" black man...

Silverfiddle said...

... and we also recently learned that RG3 isn't an authentic black either.

Seems to me it's the liberals who have the race hang-ups.

A big white goon like you can pat yourself on the back for being enlightened while putting me in a box when you have no idea what my past or my current life is or what my family situation is like.

Pretty damned presumptuous, I'd say...

Jersey McJones said...

Silver, you're doing it again. No serious person is saying Tim Scott is not black, or RG3 is a typical option back in the NFL (re: can be good, but won't win rings) because he is black.

Anyone, liberal or conservative, knows better than that.

You're assuming that just because someone is liberal, they must assume you are a racist because you are a conservative. That simply is NOT true.

You should market your beliefs without accusing people of stupidity, greed, or hate if they disagree with you.

Did it ever occur to you that many good, decent, intelligent people think supply-side economic policy is a bad idea, as well as free trade, the self-perpetuating military and police states, flat taxes, theocracy, and a host of other things we perfectly normal and intelligent people have thought out and come to differ with you, are not stupid?

You guys can trot out all the various colored and gendered "friends" you got. You're still conservative. Sell that to them, and bango, you're a big tent. Congratulations.


Silverfiddle said...

You're right, Jersey. No serious people are. Only dumbshit liberals like you are.

Read it. Own it:

And this is a typical ignorant liberal statement:

You guys can trot out all the various colored and gendered "friends" you got. You're still conservative.

Presuming to tell others what we are. Weren't you scolded here awhile back for doing the same thing to conservative women? Don't you learn?

And we "white conservatives" do not "trot out" our friends, regardless of gender, ethnicity or color, so stuff it up your ass.

You don't know me to be making such stupid assumptions about me.

How ignorant...

Unknown said...

And we "white conservatives" do not "trot out" our friends, regardless of gender, ethnicity or color, so stuff it up your ass.

Go give Allen Wet a big smooch, Silver.

Silverfiddle said...

@ Unknown: "Go give Allen Wet a big smooch, Silver."

I don't know him that well. Go show me where I ever trotted him out as some token friend, as you libs imagine, or show yourself to be just one more dim bulb engaging in leftwing stereotypes that have no merit.

Unknown said...

When liberals have got nothing to say, they say "hide your hate and bigotry for your party"

J.O.B. said...

Well, the biggest problem I had with the GOP during this election is that they didn't seem to put up the best candidate. It seems that they nominated the candidate that had the highest probability of defeating President Obama.
I don't know much about Rubio either SF. But I am curious what the birther crowd would say about his nomination, or Jindal's for that matter.
Of course we won't have to worry about running against a black President in 2016. But what will happen when the Democrats nominate a Jewish person? Will it then become a battle between Christianity and Judaism?
Time will tell.

Anonymous said...

>African American

HALF African-American. The Fop is just as much white as he is black. In his case, both halves are really, really bad, of course. And it's not because of the color.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

Rubio is a non-starter for me because he seems to have a following with the Tea Party "movement."

I prefer my communists to be unashamed to admit what they are.

FreeThinke said...

A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

A mind is a terrible thing to lose.

And an election is far worse to lose.

Leftists claiming to be conservatives does not make that leftist a conservative.

Marco Rubio, like all Tea Party members past and present, is a leftist claiming to be a conservative.

MathewK said...

The masses are looking for bread and circuses, twitter and gayness now. It's what anyone with aspirations of ruling the sheeple will need to provide.