Monday, September 10, 2012

Clint Eastwood: Mission Accomplished

Clint Eastwood gave an interview to his local paper, The Carmel Pine Cone.  Here are a few excerpts:
“President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people,” Eastwood told The Pine Cone this week. “Romney and Ryan would do a much better job running the country, and that’s what everybody needs to know. I may have irritated a lot of the lefties, but I was aiming for people in the middle.” 
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“I had three points I wanted to make,” Eastwood said. “That not everybody in Hollywood is on the left, that Obama has broken a lot of the promises he made when he took office, and that the people should feel free to get rid of any politician who’s not doing a good job. But I didn’t make up my mind exactly what I was going to say until I said it.”  (Carmel Pine Cone)
It's an interesting article, giving a blow-by-blow account leading up to the speech and then the aftermath.

After the DNC's Kavalcade of Kooks, Clint's performance looks even better.

Eastwood: Mission Accomplished

Democrat Lies

And as a latebreaking addition, I'm reposting Scudrunner's excellent comment from yesterday:

The GOP needs to point out the Obama/Obiden lies

1. Clinton left Bush a surplus not a deficit = Lie
Clinton was in deficit spending (That means we were spending more that we were taking in).  With his new math of using the medicare surplus he considered that a budget surplus.


2. Obama saved the auto industry and Romney said let them go out of business = lie
What Romney said is they need to file bankruptcy to reorganize.  What Obama did was spend 20 billion to give the unions half of GM, eliminate several companies and then have them file bankruptcy. At least he took Romney's advice


3. Romney/Ryan will give millionaires/billionaires a tax break while raising taxes to the middle class = Lie
Romney will eliminate tax deductions which will affect the "rich" far more than the middle class


4. Obama cut taxes for 95% of Americans = Lie

He cut SS taxes further depleting SS for the future while starting taxes for obamacare and of course tanning

5. Romney/Ryan will cut medicare = Lie
Over 55 nothing will change, under 55 you have a choice of accepting a voucher to pay private insurance or take medicare as it is. Democrats think Americans are to dumb to make their own choices.


6. Obama will strengthen Medicare by lowering costs = Lie
He will cut reimbursements which will result in fewer Dr's accepting medicare resulting in healthcare shortages


7. Obama go Bin Laden = True
Thanks to the systems put in place by the previous administrations which Obama was against.


8. Obama is for equal treatment of women = lie
Female workers at the WH make less than males.

102 comments:

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Much hay is being made [and justifiably so] about Bill Clinton overshadowing Obama at the DNC...but I've noticed much the same regarding both the Ryan pick and Clint's speech at the RNC.

Is Romney really the best the GOP could do?

SF - Considering that Obama has largely carried on the Bush Administrations policies regarding the 'GWOT', aside form waterboarding [which is debatable as to how much that may have contributed to killing ObL] what specifically was Obama against, that led to his death.

Spot on about the auto industry.

The Political Chic said...

Eastwood sure stirred them up! The Left has been jumping all over themselves since the RNC convention. Clint hit it out of the park!

And he did it without a teleprompter, his speech was a masterful ad-lib. I can't even imagine the "The Great One" being able to tie his shoes without a teleprompter giving him instructions.

“President Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people,”

Silverfiddle said...

Is Romney really the best the GOP could do?

No. And Obama is not the best of the Democrat party either. In politics, we rarely get the best.

My fellow conservatives will probably jump all over me for saying this, but we'd probably be much better off with Warren Buffet running things.

Rational Nation USA said...

As to teleprompter use... Exactly what does that indicate? I mean really, given candidate Mittens Romney, as well as all Presidents as far back as LBJ have utilized them.

Is one to assume Mittens, the man who flips before he flops, needs a telepromter to tie his shoes as well?

As to greatest hoax... Arguably the greatest hoax is the new facist rEpublican pArty of America passing itself off as a party of integrity and liberty. A joke really for those who actually " get what is really going on."

Shaw Kenawe said...

If would have been helpful if your commenter, skudrunner, had given you some links to back up his comments. Without them, his claims are mere opinions.

I looked on the interenet to try to discover if what skudrunner claimed about the equal pay for equal work was correct.

I found this site which states:

"The White House has been required to deliver a report to Congress listing the title and salary of every White House Office employee. Consistent with President Obama's commitment to transparency, this report is being publicly disclosed on our website as it is transmitted to Congress. In addition, this report also contains the title and salary details of administration officials who work at the Office of Policy Development, including the Domestic Policy Council and the National Economic Council -- along with White House Office employees."

After looking at the 400+ jobs and salaries listed, with names to indicate male and female, I found that 1) many job titles are diverse and it is impossible to know the job descriptions and what the educational and experiential requirements are for each job that would warrant a difference in pay scale, and 2) there were enough jobs that carried the exact same title so that a comparison could be made for the salaries paid to males and females. From those data I was able to determine if salaries for male and female holding the same title/job made the same salaries:

Operator: male: $42,738 female: $43,656

Analyst: male and female: $42,000

Staff Assistant: male and female: $42,000

Press Assistant: male and female: $42,000

Associate Director male: (Ian Reed) $45,900, femaale (Karen Richardson) $92,000

Assistant Director, female: $51,000, male: $50,000

Senior Analyst: male: $42,000, female: $42,000

conservativesonfire said...

The on going spasms' that the media are having over the Eastwood performance is proof positive that he hit some nerves.

Ducky's here said...
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Ducky's here said...

Is Romney the best the Republicans could do?
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Were you watching the primaries?

9-9-9!

Federal subsidies to run her Pray 'em Straight clinic.

Perry was drunk most of the time.

L'il Ricky Retardo?

The answer is that the R's are so far in the weeds that Romney is about the best you could do.

Opinionated Me said...

Why is it that Liberals ALWAYS change the subject, or topic,?
I was under the impression that the topic here was Clint Eastwood.
But we find Ducky Here, Shaw Kenawe Rational Nation USA, squirming and spinning to other subjects that are completely of topic
And " Mittens Romney" Really?
But you insist on pushing the name calling issue..
How about
Barack OLenin
Barack OStalin
Barack OKhrushchev
Barack OGorbachev
Barack Obama

Are we there yet?

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Z said...
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Z said...

Of course, the Carmel area is riddled with drunken lefties celebrating their extreme wealth which allows them to live in that lovely area, according to my own Conservative friend who lives there and gets the Carmel Pine Cone (maybe the worst name for a paper ever, unless you know how many pine trees are there!)....the reason they allowed this to be printed is that Eastwood's a HERO there, lives there, owns the HOG'S BREATH INN, etc....they love him and had to acquiesce!

Don't forget, we have what the media called "NOBEL PRIZE WINNER PAUL KRUGMAN" saying Ryan is "not a man of substance" so...:-)
By the way, when Obama won the Nobel seemingly for getting elected, didn't that take some of the gravitas behind any Nobel winner's sentiments away for you?

I love how a Black Secretary in the White House under Republicans was SECRETARY OF STATE not the secretary sitting around the corner from the Oval Office taking messages. Was it Chuck Todd, leftist, who said the Democrats could take a lesson from the Republicans in how many minority Republicans are in positions of governor, mayors, etc? Ya, I think it was Todd.

Opinionated Me said...

When Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev said, “We will Bury you “ in 1956.
Since he didn't speak English and he had a very heavy Russian accent he was really miss-quoted..
The actual verbal translation was “We will Barry you !”

Shaw Kenawe said...

Opinionated: "Why is it that Liberals ALWAYS change the subject, or topic,?
I was under the impression that the topic here was Clint Eastwood.
But we find Ducky Here, Shaw Kenawe Rational Nation USA, squirming and spinning to other subjects that are completely of[sic] topic"

You obviously didn't read half of SF's post. Maybe you should try finishing reading a post before you jump to your opinionated conclusions.


But you DO have an opinion, don't you, whether you know what you're talking about or not.



Opinionated Me said...

Shaw Kenawe said...
But you DO have an opinion, don't you, whether you know what you're talking about or not.




And if I stated my opinion of YOU, and the other MARXIST'S here , it would get me banned from this blog.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

It's interesting how the recent framing of the left has gone from normal Democrat v. Republican, to hyperbolic redefinitions of Marxism and Communism.

Opinionated Me said...
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Opinionated Me said...

If the conventions proved one thing, it proved that an empty chair was more exciting than an empty suit!

Shaw Kenawe said...

"If the conventions proved one thing, it proved that an empty chair was more exciting than an empty suit!"

Alternate reality is always comforting when reality isn't what you want it to be.

Facts are that the Democratic convention had more viewers than did the GOP convention. And more viewers watched Pres. Clinton speak on Wed. night than watched the opening night of the NFL.

And Mrs. Obama had more views watch her speech on line than watched the ENTIRE GOP convention.

Clint Eastwood was a big hit with the GOP. Everyone else, the rest of the country laughed at him.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"If the conventions proved one thing, it proved that an empty chair was more exciting than an empty suit!"

I agree with this, but probably not how it was intended. I like Clint and liked the message [not so much the delivery], but in my estiomation, the empty suit is just as easily Romney.

Opinionated Me said...

Shaw Kenawe said...


"Facts are that the Democratic convention had more viewers than did the GOP convention. And more viewers watched Pres. Clinton speak on Wed. night than watched the opening night of the NFL.?



FACT!
Most people turn on the TV for fun rather than educating themselves! And that is pretty pathetic!
And watching the Democratic Convention WAS very funny.

For example, more people watch cartoons like King of the Hill, Family Guy, The Simpsons, than the History channel
This only goes to show just how stupid these people are
.

Opinionated Me said...

Does anyone of our Jewish friends who will be voting for Obama realize that Obama, as President, has never been to Israel. Has never had Israel Prime Minister to dine at the White House, tho, quickly invited Muslim Brotherhood Egyptian President there. Just sayin..

Shaw Kenawe said...

Opinionated Me said...

"This only goes to show just how stupid these people are. [Q.E.D]"


Rational Nation USA said...

@ Opinionated Me... What you fail to realize is I am an objectivist, a Advocate of Ayn Rand's ethics and philosophy, and thus true capitalism, as in laissez-faire.

Objectivism does demand recognition of reality. My comment was to highlight the lack of realty based obsevation. Often on by both liberals and conservatives.

Please understand I am not a conservative, at least not in the way you think of conservatism, nor am I modern liberal. I can be called a classical liberal and it would be relatively accurate.

Jack Whyte said...

@ CI

Communism is a socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless, stateless social order, structured upon common ownership of the means of production. A communist or Marxist is an adherent of the foregoing.

Now if the preceding definition doesn’t describe Barack Obama and the Democratic National Platform, nothing does. The behavior of the progressive movement over the past four years is inimical to the interests of a free American society. I find it astounding that the government seized private property at the public’s expense, turned it over to union gangs, disenfranchised non-union members, and you find nothing worrisome about any of this…

No matter how much you pretend otherwise, Marxists are at work within the United States. Deny it all you wish, try to make others feel as if they are stupid by your elitist comments—but we know better. All of this may be just fine with you, but it isn’t fine with me. So here’s an idea: remove your head from your ass, if for no other reason than to get a clearer picture of how progressives have transformed the Democratic Party into a communist movement.

Rock Elements said...

Empty chair for an empty suit.

#7 That's questionable.
Bin Laden was most likely dead before the raid. Some say kidney failure and others lung. Either way someone was was killed, not him. Another reason for making the evidence shark food.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/osama_dead.php
Search it and find more if you like.
Thanks for this - Eastwood's right. The biggest sham and another one rising - bigger.

FreeThinke said...

Yawanna know what I think of the whole mitty shess?

HERE'S what I think:


!!!!DRATSABOHCTIBOHTRAFHOTITHOTNUCHOWERCSHOKCUFHOKCUSHOSSIPHOTIHSHOTSIRHCHO

Put a fuse on it. Light and walk away till you hear it go KABOOM!

YLDETSUGSID,

~ FT

Sam Huntington said...

I believe Obama is a hoax, too; every bit as much as was Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton. Roosevelt didn’t repair America’s economy following the stock market crash, he made it last longer. Is this lesson lost on the American voter? Apparently. Lyndon Johnson’s so-called Greatest Generation didn’t make America a better place for minorities; he made it more expensive. If you wanted to do something for minorities, give them a decent education, a decent job, and give them cultural decency. Bill Clinton had the benefit of a conservative congress, which made him a “better” president, but Clinton gave us a more dangerous world and two attacks on the World Trade Center. I didn’t mention Carter, Obama, or Bush … they are all bad jokes self-imposed by a deserving society.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

@Jack - Sure.....I'm the elitist.

The framing of the mainstream of the American left as Marxism and/or Communism is a facade constructed by those who cannot admit nor defend the shortcomings of their own party, and haven't the intellectual depth to even try.

Don't even begin to pretend to presume what I find worrisome. If one engages in just a bit of critical thought, one knows that lack of enthusiasm for one party does not equal support for the opposition.

The manner in which the left governs is not an ideology I support. But I don't have to lay smokescreens of bovine fecal matter and juvenile attempts at redefinition of vocabulary make any case I choose to.

That you insist upon it says far more about you, than you have tried to say about me.

Jack Whyte said...

@ CI

I once read that if people really are out to get you, relax: you aren’t paranoid. This issue isn’t about one party or the other —I guess you missed the point. Here, let me spell it out for you. The primary issue facing Americans today is one of ideology; a deeper issue than party labels. Now if the political left embraces the idea that government gets to choose winners over losers, then I have to argue the political left no longer conveys American values. If the political left argues that is role of the federal government to deliver social justice, then I must argue we are in danger of losing our country to this foreign ideology: collectivism.

My bottom line is this: as an American, you can believe whatever you wish. Just don’t piss down my neck and tell me it’s raining.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

@Jack - I agree with what you're saying. My initial point was that the manner in which Obama has governed does not equate to the very definitions of Marxism and Communism that are being bandied about frivolously.

It is about ideology, but party power has eclipsed core ideologies, on both ends of the spectrum. The GOP has lost it's way and drifted away from core Conservative values - Conservative in this instance being core classically liberal than modern usage. Admonishing the GOP doesn't mean any love for the left, nor vice versa. The American political landscape has always contained tenets that are derided as collectivism, today's government is no different, and certainly no worse than some previous.

My latter point is more to the idea that if one's position or ideology is both strong and just, it should be able to stand on it's own merit. When the person making said argument relies on distractions and hyperbole, their position must not be strong enough to stand. Today's political landscape seems to consist mostly of rhetorical framing, distractions and hyperbole.

I'm rather sick of it, while others continue to play the game, because their party demands it.

The choice is up to the individual, but a vote for the status quo is not going to repair the problems we face.

BTW, I as a long time door kicking knuckle dragger...I dig your avatar.

Liberalmann said...

The right is getting so desperate that lies like this post are so obvious.

And by the way Clint Eastwood is a, another old, mean spirited, white, millionaire. LOL!

That's the right demographic. Well, except for the morons they get to believe their crap so they can screw the middle class.

Silverfiddle said...

Liberalmann: Your posts are boring. A few facts would help them out.

Steve: Repetitious accusations also make for boring reading and they interrupt an otherwise interesting thread.

Look at the exchange between Jack Whyte and Constitutional Insurgent and learn something about interacting and disagreeing with civility.

Finntann said...

Fact is, today, even the marxists and communists aren't marxist or communist.

Quite frankly, they're all just corporatists of varying flavor, a bill of goods from the Madison Avenue ad execs so to speak.

I have to agree with C.I., it's all about getting elected, nothing more.

Ducky's here said...
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Ducky's here said...

Objectivism does demand recognition of reality

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Yeah, that's why the Ayn Rand Institute tried to deny the basics of quantum mechanics.

The discovery of the Higgs must really have their knickers in a knot.
The light Higgs means that the LHC should have enough juice to prove supersymmetry which is a key prediction of string theory.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Ducky's here said...

Let's face it folks. Anyone who calls Obama a Marxist or Communist:

1. Has never done any formal study of either.

2. Is easily manipulated by Fox talking points.

3. Is so closed minded that he is absolutely incapable of finding anything of interest in the world.

It's kinda sad.

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FreeThinke said...

LEST WE FORGET:

The Antidote to Marxist Mendacity and the Rule of Incessant Dissimulation


Remember this list whenever you think, write or speak about Obama:


1. Loony Commie Mommy

2. African Savage Muslim Daddy

3. Frank Marshall - Obama’s dedicated Communist mentor in Hawaii

4. Ayers & Dohrn - Domestic Terrorists

5. Jeremiah Wright - who preached God DAMN, America! A friend of Farrakhan and of NOI

6. Black Liberation Theology –– a non-Christian, anti-Capitalist, pro-Communist, subversive political movement inclined to incite violence and insurrection

7. Father Pfleger –– a raving, Anti-American lunatic priest who supports Obama and BLT

8. "Community Organizer"- A code word for Communist

9. ACORN

10. Mommy's second dark, markedly-foreign husband, the Muslim Soetero

11. Muslim Childhood in Indonesia

12. Columbia & Harvard Universities (notorious Red Breeders both)

13. Hugo Chavez

14. Che Guevara

15. George Soros

16. BO said in a radio interview (heard rebroadcast on The Savage Nation and elsewhere) that he thought the Warren Court was not in the least radical, and that it should have included mandates for the redistribution of wealth to disadvantaged blacks back in 1954 -- the time the court desegregated (and frankly screwed up) our schools.

“There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.”


~ FreeThinke

FreeThinke said...

You don't have to be a card-carrying member of CPUSA to be a Marxist.

All you have to do is subscribe to the kind mental, moral and spiritual POISON listed in the post immediately above.

~ FT

Leticia said...

I knew I liked Clint Eastwood not only as an actor but an honest and conservative person, and if I am not mistaken, a Libertarian.

Finntann said...

@Ducky-

Hey! You got your science in my philosophy...

You got your philosophy in my science.

What can I say about Ayn Rand?

Excellent Ideologist, Average Author, Mediocre Philosopher ???

Not all Libertarians are Randian.



@FT: "African Savage Muslim Daddy?"

"second dark, markedly-foreign husband"

Racist comments like that demean your argument against his philosophy.

I for one find them no more tolerable than those made by extremists on the other side.



viburnum said...

Ducky: "Yeah, that's why the Ayn Rand Institute tried to deny the basics of quantum mechanics."

I seem to recall that Einstein didn't think much of it, prompting his famous; "Der Herrgott würfelt nicht" Mortimer Adler wasn't a fan either, as in his opinion Planck fudged the numbers.

Ducky's here said...

Didn't Einstein say that about the Uncertainty Principle when he knew Heisenberg had him by the nuts?

viburnum said...

No he was arguing with Niels Bohr about probability. Bohr's retort was priceless. "Albert, stop telling God what to do."

FreeThinke said...

Listen, Finn. I don't care a rat's rump what you think. You ought to know that by now, so SHUT UP.

His father WAS an African savage. Nothing YOU or anyone ELSE says can change that. It's a fact. Sub-Saharan African Negroes are SAVAGES. Period!

You can take the boy out of the jungle, teach him English, and put him in Harvard, but you can't take the jungle out of the boy.

His lunatic-bitch of a mother was practically ORDERED by her lunatic anti-American, reverse-racist, Communist bastard father NOT to "date" White Boys, but to sleep with Africans, Asians -- ANYTHING BUT -- what-have-always-been-considered typical, normal, "suitable" American men.

All people are ANYTHING BUT equal. That truth is certainly self-evident to anyone with eyes, ears and half a brain.

These people -- these COMMUNIST BASTARDS -- have been on a "mission" to DESTROY White America as such for a very long time. Apparently that's just hunky dory with you.

Well, I don't like it, and I don't HAVE to like it. And I'm not GOING to like it.

If it were something botn of genuine love that had happened NATURALLY, and not been part of long term, malicious, pointedly destructive "AGENDA," I'd feel very differently, but the willfully perverse behavior of Stanley Ann Dunham was a TACTIC. Love and mutual attraction had nothing to do with it. Therefore, her "choice" was that of an angry "revolutionary."

The bitch was never a mother to her son. His black sperm donor "father" was never a PARENT to Baby Barack, so the whole God-damned thing was a SHAM, just as baby Barack, himself, has always been a sham -- an INSTRUMENT not a person - part of a PLAN to UNDO us.

If you can't see that, you're nowhere near as smart as you like to think you are.

~ FT

Ducky's here said...

There you go again, Freethinker.

Very tacky. Don't listening to Beethoven teach you white bread no manners?

Rational Nation USA said...

Ducky old boy deny Objectivism and the ethics of rational self intetest to your hearts content. Cause as has been said there is a seat for every ass.

By the way, where did I 1) indicate total agreement with every conclusion of Objectivism 2) What has Higgs have to do with this post or my comment?

Finntann said...

And you FT are an anachronistic racist prick... so why don't you take your own advice and"SHUT UP", because pretty much everyone but the David Duke crowd is laughing at you and considers you an embarrassment.

For someone who nags the crap out of everyone else over the rules of the English language, one would think you could properly follow the rules of capitalization, unless of course you're under the misconception that capitalization somehow lends more credence to the vitriolic crap you are spewing.

Ain't no white bread there, Ducky, just white trash. White trash that I have told in the past that I will not let slide on this bullshit. White trash that lends credence to the accusations that conservatives are racist, and that readily hands our opposition the ammunition needed to discredit us.

So no, FT, I'm not going to listen to you or your racist bullshit or anyone else's for that matter. You are a disgrace to conservatives everywhere and give the rest of us a bad name. I am not going to cede you the bully pulpit and let these disgusting rants stand unchallenged.

I can say one thing honestly and without reservation... I'd vote for Obama long before I'd vote for the likes of you.

Ducky's here said...

Well Rational Nation if the folks at the Ayn Rand Institute are trying to deny quantum physics then they ain't too down with the real. As the Higgs discovery proves.

Ducky's here said...

Sorry it isn't Beethoven, Freethinker

Z said...

"Savage?" FT..."SAVAGE?"
wow

jez said...
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jez said...

A little clarity:

the term "savage" is an anachronistic term for a tribal person, not necessarily racist but not part of polite common usage these days.

"Sub-Saharan African Negroes are SAVAGES"

This actually is racist. The savagery of a tribal group is cultural, not biologically intrinsic to the people involved.

"If it were something botn of genuine love that had happened NATURALLY, and not been part of long term, malicious, pointedly destructive "AGENDA," I'd feel very differently,"

Freethinke seems to know a lot about this, I'd love to know what his source is. And I wonder how Freethinke feels about the dynastic marriages between European royals in recent centuries? The heirs they issued were seldom born of love, but of foreign policy, AGENDA if you will.

Rational Nation USA said...

Hey Stevie ole bigoted hate filled price of sewer garbage , go twiddle yourself you loved starved bag of shit.

-FJ said...

Lighten up people. In the ranking of "evils" in the world, communism trumps racism eight days a week.

Yet few people denounce the communists and socialist scum with 1/100th the "ardor" they expend seeking out and expelling nebulously perceived instances of "racism".

Stop fighting WWII. The Nazi's lost, but the red and pink diapered "anti-fascists" are still VERY PRESENT amongst us.

Darth Bacon said...

Where is Clint Eastwood when you need him?

Rational Nation USA said...

@ Stevie, from a prior thread...

Hack said...

Steve,

You need a lobotomy. I am still trying to figure out by the intelligence level of your comments, if you are an actual person or some sort of pre-programmed Soros funded DNC spamming drone who can't pick up on human elements such as irony and sarcasm.

You just may have explained the purpose behind Stevie's very existence Hack.

Now Stevie ole drone, go twiddle with your circuitry.

-FJ said...

Stevie,

Stop projecting. The Left's "holier than thou art" schtick is sooo old, and running soooo thin,that only the idiots (and yes, I'm talking to you) are still trying to use it.

If it wasn't for the NAZI's having so effectively used the Jews as scapegoats, that the anti-fascists using "racists" for scapegoats wouldn't have ever caught fire.

-FJ said...

btw - The shriller and more hysterical your denunciations of racism become, the more INauthentic your actual concern becomes readily evident.

As Lincoln said, "If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his true friend. Therein is a drop of honey that catches his heart, which, say what he will, is the greatest highroad to his reason, and which when once gained, you will find but little trouble in convincing his judgment of the justice of your cause, if, indeed, that cause be really a just one. On the contrary, assume to dictate to his judgment, or to command his action, or to make him as one to be shunned or despised, and he will retreat within himself, close all the avenues to his head and heart; and though your cause be naked truth itself, transformed to the heaviest lance, harder than steel and sharper than steel can be made, and though you throw it with more than Herculean force and precision, you shall be no more able to pierce him than to penetrate the hard shell of a tortoise with a rye straw."

-FJ said...

Seig Heil, mein fuhrer!

Rational Nation USA said...

Just thinking Steve, perhaps you should change your avatar to a Rottweiler attack dog. It is more representative of your personality. And intellect I might add.

Inspector AIPAc said...

Stevie,

Not to kibitz, but stop being such a nudnik. People will think that you're meshuggeneh, because your coming across like a pisher. If you want to noodge the goyem, you'll need to register at my blog, or I'll have to put you down as a schmendrik. It's just not kosher, unless you register.

FreeThinke said...

A Wry Memorial

The Swarthy Ones took over;
And made weapons of four planes.
The riders had no cover;
They suffered dreadful pains

That ended once their deathtraps
Burst into roaring fires
Turning instantly to mere scraps––
Cinders––made of former flyers.

The burning towers crumpled,
And fell into the street.
New York was more than rumpled;
Briefly, it knew defeat.

The nation drew together;
We felt collective grief.
Anger broke its tether;
To express it gave relief.

But only ten years hence
We're at each other's throats;
We've built ourselves a fence
Over which the Devil gloats.

We've failed to give the orders
To build a proper wall
Sealing off our borders
To the fiends who’d have us fall.

Instead, we've made division––
Went to war against ourselves––
And are mired in derision
Sparked by partisan elves,

Who forget this blessed land
In pursuit of powers lost
In close elections manned
By fraud. So, tempest-tossed

The country is in turmoil.
The enemy's our own.
He says it's all for Big Oil,
And he'll soon usurp the Throne.

The heap of twisted rubble
Raising toxic fumes for weeks
No longer gives us trouble
Because of media leaks

Designed to throw us off the scent
Of whom we need to blame
And encourage ruinous dissent
That hopes to break the frame

That holds us all together
And preserves our liberty,
So many now doubt whether
We really should be free.

And each rabble rousing louse
Should 'neath these words be pinned:
"He who troubleth his own house
Shall inherit–––the wind"

~ FreeThinke

FreeThinke said...

Read and learn:


Savage adj.

belonging to a wood, wild, fr. silva a wood. See Silvan and Silvatyic
Of or pertaining to the forest; remote from human abodes and cultivation; in a state of nature; nature; wild; as, a savage wilderness.
Living in a State of Nature. Primitive, wild; untamed; uncultivated; as, savage beasts - “Cornels, and savage berries of the wood.” - Dryden.

Uncivilized; untaught; unpolished; rude; as, savage life; savage manners.
“What nation, since the commencement of the Christian era, ever rose from savage to civilized without Christianity?” E. D. Griffin.

Characterized by cruelty; barbarous; fierce; ferocious; inhuman; brutal; as, a savage spirit. Syn. -- Ferocious; wild; uncultivated; untamed; untaught; uncivilized; unpolished; rude; brutish; brutal; heathenish; barbarous; cruel; inhuman; fierce; pitiless; merciless; unmerciful; atrocious. See ferocious

Savage n.

A human being in his native state of rudeness; one who is untaught; uncivilized, or without cultivation of mind or manners.
A man of extreme, unfeeling, brutal cruelty; a barbarian.

Finntann said...


rac·ist [rey-sist]
noun

a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.

racism or racialism (ˈreɪsɪzəm, ˈreɪʃəˌlɪzəm)
— n

1. the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others

2. abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief

So, if the shoe fits...

Liberalmann said...

Freethink said: "The bitch was never a mother to her son. His black sperm donor "father" was never a PARENT to Baby Barack, so the whole God-damned thing was a SHAM, just as baby Barack, himself, has always been a sham -- an INSTRUMENT not a person - part of a PLAN to UNDO us."
---

Given enough time (and rope) wingnuts will always show their true colors.

-FJ said...

hubris

: exaggerated pride or self-confidence
— hu·bris·tic adjective

If the shoe fits...

Leticia said...

Silver, thank you for the tribute above. God bless you.

-FJ said...

Finntann,

Go along to get along, much?

Finntann said...

No FJ, I never 'go along' with racism. You?

-FJ said...

Liar.

-FJ said...

Can only white people be "racists"?

Challenge many coloured people on it, Finny?

We're ALL racists. Some of us, however, prefer not to pretend to be "holier than thou art" about it.

Learn to live with some discomfort. Either that, or go to Inspector AIPac's and register with the PC police.

Cuz your "reflexive" bowing to the double standards of liberals is hanging out of your pants where your d*ck used to be.

Finntann said...

" All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. "

~Thomas Jefferson

I find it disheartening that with the exception of Ducky, Jez, and Liberalmann (and possibly Steve whose comment appears to have been deleted) the rest of you stand in mute agreement to such a racist diatribe.

You complain when policed by the left and the media, yet here you stand failing to police yourselves. FT is certainly entitled to express his opinion, a right that I would staunchly defend, yet he has no right to our agreement or our silence.

Disappointing.


FreeThinke said...

Thank you, FJ.

I need no support, but I appreciate it, of course, especially when it's based on understanding.

What was it your friend Nietszche said? Something to this effect, I believe:

"Beware of him in whom the urge to punish is strong."

We run into sharp-tongued individuals cursed with a superiority complex and an overmastering penchant for bullying, badgering and name-calling all over the net -- which is, of course, a microcosm of the globe.

One thing has made itself abundantly clear to me in fourteen years of posting at blogs and websites: No matter WHAT topic is featured the exact same personality traits manifest themselves.

If you want to bother reading the comments posted in the classical music sections of YouTube, you will find the same sort of heated partisanship, obnoxious personal attacks and depressing lack of decorum and respect about the way someone plays Mozart or Schubert as you do here pertaining to definitions of Marxism, Racism, Patriotism, Religious Bigotry, etc.

Erich Fromm -- a member of the Frankfurt School of which I am most certainly not a fan -- once wrote a book called Must Men Hate?

Apparently, they must. (:-x

Surely most of us have noticed that approximately 90% of the remarks posted are negative, denigratory, defamatory, petulant, ill-natured and unappreciative of any positive values or hopeful ideas expressed or promoted?

What does that say about us?

Nothing very encouraging, I fear.

~ FreeThinke

-FJ said...

Meden agan, Finntann. Especially when only members of one group seem to be "speaking up".

-FJ said...

...unless of course it is you aim to claim "superiority" for this self-depravating group. ;)

-FJ said...

erratum- depracating

Finntann said...

No, racists can be of any color.

As a matter of fact FJ I have challenged 'coloured people' on it. Of the two most racist people I have ever met, one was black and one was white.

SF knows me, he can vouch that I am the last person that would stand for political correctness, however racism is racism and I am under no obligation to tolerate it from people of any color.

Political correctness has absolutely nothing to do with it. You simply revert to the PC argument to defend the indefensible.

I for one am not so naive to think that the color of man's skin dictates the quality of his character. I can honestly say Obama sucks... he doesn't suck because he's black, he sucks because he is a progressive statist with leftist tendencies, he'd suck if he was lily white too.

The greatest success the terrorists on 9/11 achieved wasn't downing two office buildings, it was getting Americans to sacrifice their principles of Freedom, Liberty, and Equality for a little imaginary safety.



-FJ said...

Bullsh*t. You're nothing but a Stevie "enabler". Keep it up. You look good standing with the "mob".

-FJ said...

Every terror group needs its' Madam leFarge to keep count.

-FJ said...

...or count coup, whatever the case may be.

-FJ said...

How Finntann would end up if he ever actually wasn't lying...

Finntann said...

FT, I have absolutely no desire to punish you for your beliefs, or your statements. If you go back to my first comment all I said was:

"Racist comments like that demean your argument against his philosophy.

I for one find them no more tolerable than those made by extremists on the other side."

You're entitled to present your opinion, I'm entitled to rebut it. I rebutted it politely, if you take exception to the adjective racist, maybe you ought to go back and read what you wrote. Think I've mischaracterized your comments, by all means, enlighten us as to how they are not racist.

You can pretend you are the offended one, but frankly your comments are offensive. Now I have no right not to be offended, but I am under no obligation to remain silent in the face of such blatantly racist drivel.

You can attempt to paint me as a "sharp-tongued individual cursed with a superiority complex and an overmastering penchant for bullying, badgering and name-calling all over the net" but I might suggest you look in a mirror first.

"You can take the boy out of the jungle, teach him English, and put him in Harvard, but you can't take the jungle out of the boy."

Says all that needs to be said.






-FJ said...

We all suffer from an excess of hubris, no doubt about it.

Finntann said...

Nice FJ... and you think yourself better than the mob.

Liar, lying... that the best argument you can come up with? Liar liar pants of fire?

Go on... let me see a rigorous intellectual defense of FTs postion on African savages in American politics.

Or maybe I should just link to the article about Texans in Jasper dragging the 'nigger' behind their truck?

Let me guess... growing up your mother asked "If Billy jumped off the bridge would you jump off too" alot.

-FJ said...

...and The Fall is a coming... probably sooner than later.

Finntann said...

Don't worry, I'm sure FT will let you in his bunker.

-FJ said...

Did Stevie's lickspittle say something?

I must have missed it.

Finntann said...

I'm impressed FJ, lickspittle, did you get a thesaurus for your birthday?

Intellectual arguments may be mentally stimulating, but the playground ones are sometimes fun too.

Finntann said...

Nice tribute post SF.

Can't say I'm familiar with Liz McNicholl, but I'll be sure to check out her work. I like the genres she works in, is her other stuff as good?

viburnum said...

@FJ "enabling?" Since Stevie only has one button on his jukebox I'd have to say that you and FT were the ones pushing it.

FreeThinke said...

Sounds like Demon Rum has taken over the conversation.

Apparently, the capacity for self-delusion among human beings is infinite.

I have no taste -- or time -- for bickering.

Over and out.

!~ FT

FreeThinke said...

Viburnum,

Shame in you! I wouldn't address Steve or even bother to allude to him, her or it, if he she or it was the last person left in earth.

I discovered long ago that it's much better to be alone than in bad company.

FJ is the only one who "got it."

Take care.

~ FT

jez said...

Freethinke: since FJ is a troll, his support of you is probably insincere.

Finntann: Freethinke is unashamed of his racism.

-FJ said...

And jez is EXTREMELY PROUD of his condescending, yet disturbingly patronizing attitude towards all minorities as exemplified by auto-reflexive yet one-sided attacks on every perceived example of "white" racism, but no other kinds.

FreeThinke said...

Oh, and Ducky, I must tell you that, while the truth may be unpleasant, unpalatable and infuriating much of the time, presenting it should never be categorized as "tacky."

~ FreeThinke

FreeThinke said...

Those who take it upon themselves to define people they don't know in opprobrious and denigratory fashion just because they don't admire the way someone expresses himself ought not to be taken seriously.

~ FreeThinke

FreeThinke said...

Also, I've known FJ for probably ten years having encountered him in many and varied venues during that period.

He may be eccentric, but he is certainly not a troll. Much of what he posts flies far above the heads of most. He marches in lockstep with no one, and like most well-trained debaters is capable of arguing all sides of an issue with equal competence.

He just isn't a why-faced, doctrinaire leftist punk with a chip on his shoulder who likes to think he's smart, or a pugnacious bully with a chip on his shoulder the size of Gibraltar and a penchant for playing the role of prosecuting attorney in inappropriate settings.

~ FreeThinke

FreeThinke said...

I'll let you decide what this means and to whom it might apply:


He preached upon “breadth” till it argued him narrow —
The broad are too broad to define:
And of “truth” until it proclaimed him a liar —
The truth never flaunted a sign.

Simplicity fled from his counterfeit presence
As gold the pyrites would shun.
What confusion would cover the innocent Jesus
To meet so enabled a man!


~ Emily Dickinson (1830-1886)


It never ceases to amaze me how much certain remarkably insightful figures from the past -- some of them from as far back as 400 BC! -- knew about contemporary personaities -- even those of no account.

~ FT

Silverfiddle said...

@ Finntann: Nice tribute post SF.

Can't say I'm familiar with Liz McNicholl, but I'll be sure to check out her work. I like the genres she works in, is her other stuff as good?


I had never heard of her. I just found this googling the song.

Tom Paxton wrote it, and I first heard Garrison Keillor sing it right after 9/11, back when Prairie Home Companion was still a delightful comedy and music show, and not Keillor's personal pulpit of hate that he used to fulminate against everything conservative.

-FJ said...

Thanks, FT.... and while not a troll, I am not averse to trolling trolls and using trollish methods to make points normally lost to them.